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Amazing what just 5 days can do to ice cover when the bottom falls out of
the thermometer !

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Ron Button wrote:
Amazing what just 5 days can do to ice cover when the bottom falls out of
the thermometer !

RonB


http://www.fimr.fi/en/itamerinyt/jaatilanne.html



Correct me if I'm wrong here, the image on the left is what it was on
the 16th Jan 2006, the image on the right is the 'normal' (average) for
the 21st Jan, NOT todays scene.

http://www.tiehallinto.fi/alk/englis...kamera-TD.html
Current webacam SW Finland coast, I see plenty of water.

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Ron Button wrote:
Amazing what just 5 days can do to ice cover when the bottom falls
out of the thermometer !
RonB
http://www.fimr.fi/en/itamerinyt/jaatilanne.html


Correct me if I'm wrong here, the image on the left is what it was on
the 16th Jan 2006, the image on the right is the 'normal' (average) for
the 21st Jan, NOT todays scene.

http://www.tiehallinto.fi/alk/englis...kamera-TD.html
Current webacam SW Finland coast, I see plenty of water.


You read it correctly, Keith. This chart for yesterday shows the Baltic
still clear of ice:

http://iup.physik.uni-bremen.de:8084...SRE_visual.png

If the very cold conditions persist the situation is likely to change
quite quickly.

Norman.
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Chalfont St Giles 85m a.s.l.
England
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Detailed daily charts he

http://www.smhi.se/en/index.htm

Click on 'forecasts and observations', then 'Iceservice'

Karl Cooper, Orkney


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Karl Cooper wrote:
Detailed daily charts he

http://www.smhi.se/en/index.htm

Click on 'forecasts and observations', then 'Iceservice'

Karl Cooper, Orkney


Wow, that is detailed.

http://www.smhi.se/oceanografi/istja...t_20060121.pdf

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Karl Cooper wrote:
Detailed daily charts he
http://www.smhi.se/en/index.htm


Do large rivers stop flowing when the ice is bad, or do they tunnel
through somehow? It would appear that when ice forms, there is
something in the nature of supercooling observed in the way that
crystals form in large resevoirs.

Obviously I don't mean that there are seriously cold temperatures
involved but that there is a degree of purification taking place in
order to produce tendrils.

If this happens in river mouths it would allow for the tunnelling of
fluids under a little pressure -and of course, ice melts quite easily
under pressure anyway. Anyone know, offhand, how soluble ice is under
pressure?

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Yes you are right lads ,sorry I started it ,especially as the
'Weatherlawyer' has reappeared !

RonB
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Karl Cooper wrote:
Detailed daily charts he
http://www.smhi.se/en/index.htm


Do large rivers stop flowing when the ice is bad, or do they tunnel
through somehow? It would appear that when ice forms, there is
something in the nature of supercooling observed in the way that
crystals form in large resevoirs.

Obviously I don't mean that there are seriously cold temperatures
involved but that there is a degree of purification taking place in
order to produce tendrils.

If this happens in river mouths it would allow for the tunnelling of
fluids under a little pressure -and of course, ice melts quite easily
under pressure anyway. Anyone know, offhand, how soluble ice is under
pressure?



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I have put a copy of this afternoon's noaa12 pass over Finland on the web
page. There is a lot of cloud over the sea, but it does give some idea of
the ice cover around the west facing coasts.
http://www.btinternet.com/~wokingham...3-b-sca-e.html

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Bernard Burton
Wokingham, Berkshire, UK.

Satellite images at:
www.btinternet.com/~wokingham.weather/wwp.html

"Ron Button" wrote in message
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Amazing what just 5 days can do to ice cover when the bottom falls out of
the thermometer !

RonB


http://www.fimr.fi/en/itamerinyt/jaatilanne.html




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Ron Button wrote:
Yes you are right lads ,sorry I started it ,especially as the
'Weatherlawyer' has reappeared !

RonB
"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
ups.com...
Karl Cooper wrote:
Detailed daily charts he
http://www.smhi.se/en/index.htm

Do large rivers stop flowing when the ice is bad, or do they tunnel
through somehow? It would appear that when ice forms, there is
something in the nature of supercooling observed in the way that
crystals form in large resevoirs.

Obviously I don't mean that there are seriously cold temperatures
involved but that there is a degree of purification taking place in
order to produce tendrils.

If this happens in river mouths it would allow for the tunnelling of
fluids under a little pressure -and of course, ice melts quite easily
under pressure anyway. Anyone know, offhand, how soluble ice is under
pressure?




Looks frozen this morning though.

http://www.tiehallinto.fi/alk/englis...kamera-TD.html

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Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net


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