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One thing I've noticed in Cornwall is that the snowdrops, crocuses &
daffs all come out at about the same time. In fact last year, when the
daffs were exceptionally early (many fields in bloom early January),
they were before the crocuses.

Further up country, they nearly always come out in sequence
(snowdrops-crocuses-daffs.)

It appears that crocuses are more controlled by hours of daylight, and
therefore are more fixed in the time of year they flower, than
daffodils which seem to be temperature controlled.

Any horticulturalists out there to deny or confirm this?


I'm not a horticulturist but I think you may be wrong Graham. Crocuses
are not very good in my garden and have come out later than daffodils,
which have appeared generally in mid-March, so it can't be hours of
daylight as I almost get the same as you. Snowdrops are always first
though, even up here.


With crocuses and daffodils it depends which species/subspecies or
variety they are as different ones flower at different times but are
still dependent on ?temp or possibly sunlight, as opposed to daylight,
because I have some "January Gold" daffs which have never flowered
earlier than the end of February and some crocuses (can't remember
which) which always flower around mid-January but are in pots which
manage to catch a bit of sun.

My neighbour's snowdrops and aconites are in flower late January/early
February.




Are you sure they're not 'February Gold'? Never heard of the January Gold.



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After sunny spells & 12.0 yesterday (oh yes, on yesterdays 17:55 forecast
we were informed it had been a grim day.


I was amazed when the forecaster said that yesterday afternoon as well,
especially as I looked out over the village green as it basked in the warm
sunshine, the daffodils, snowdrops, primroses and crocuses all now in
flower. Recorded 11.2C yesterday.





I was amazed when last Fri evening they went on how glorious it had been.
Yet another in the unending monotony of dull greyness here.

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One thing I've noticed in Cornwall is that the snowdrops, crocuses &
daffs
all come out at about the same time. In fact last year, when the daffs
were
exceptionally early (many fields in bloom early January), they were
before
the crocuses.

Further up country, they nearly always come out in sequence
(snowdrops-crocuses-daffs.)

It appears that crocuses are more controlled by hours of daylight, and
therefore are more fixed in the time of year they flower, than daffodils
which seem to be temperature controlled.

Any horticulturalists out there to deny or confirm this?


I'm not a horticulturist but I think you may be wrong Graham.
Crocuses are not very good in my garden and have come out later than
daffodils,
which have appeared generally in mid-March, so it can't be hours of
daylight as
I almost get the same as you. Snowdrops are always first though, even up
here.


Will,

What I actually meant was that crocuses tend to come out at about the same
time over much of England.
I spent 10 years in Wiltshire, and they tended to flower the same time as in
Cornwall. They do not appear to be particularly temperature controlled, more
time of year (daylight) controlled.

In complete contrast daffodils are always much earlier in Cornwall,
typically Jan/Feb, compared with March/April in Wilts.

I realise there are early daffodil varieties, these are often picked here
before Christmas. (Sols - really a narcissi, are picked on Scilly from
October). It's the 'main crop' big standard yellow ones I'm talking about.

Graham


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With crocuses and daffodils it depends which species/subspecies or
variety they are as different ones flower at different times but are
still dependent on ?temp or possibly sunlight, as opposed to daylight,
because I have some "January Gold" daffs which have never flowered
earlier than the end of February and some crocuses (can't remember
which) which always flower around mid-January but are in pots which
manage to catch a bit of sun.

My neighbour's snowdrops and aconites are in flower late January/early
February.




Are you sure they're not 'February Gold'? Never heard of the January Gold.


You're most likely right - I always mix up the January/February
Silver/Gold, then the more I think about it the more muddled I become.


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