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For any who have been running this over the last couple of years a NEW
version is about to be realeased.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4702636.stm

http://www.climateprediction.net/

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- And on 14 Feb 2006 05:39:41 -0800, it was spake thus .com said in message "Keith (Southend)G" :

For any who have been running this over the last couple of years a NEW
version is about to be realeased.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4702636.stm

http://www.climateprediction.net/

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In article ,
Rodney Blackall writes:
In article .com,
Keith (Southend)G wrote:
For any who have been running this over the last couple of years a NEW
version is about to be realeased.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4702636.stm


http://www.climateprediction.net/


Sounds extremely similar to the scheme being run at last Summer's Royal
Society exhibition. Seven months gestation between launch and being
noticed is about par.


I thought for a moment that we were once again talking about the
pregnancies of female weather presenters.
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particularly from a relative, a friend,
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"Rodney Blackall" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
Keith (Southend)G wrote:
For any who have been running this over the last couple of years a NEW
version is about to be realeased.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4702636.stm


http://www.climateprediction.net/


Sounds extremely similar to the scheme being run at last Summer's Royal
Society exhibition. Seven months gestation between launch and being
noticed is about par.


ClimatePrediction.net has been running for over a year now, and have now
exceeded 10,000,000 years of model runs!

The BBC are running a series of TV programs on BBC 4 about climate
change next week, and are trying to get more people to join the experiment
See ; http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/hottopics/climatechange/

Here is the BBC link to CC.net
http://bbc.cpdn.org/



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In message , Alastair McDonald
k writes

"Rodney Blackall" wrote in message
.. .
In article .com,
Keith (Southend)G wrote:
For any who have been running this over the last couple of years a NEW
version is about to be realeased.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4702636.stm


http://www.climateprediction.net/


Sounds extremely similar to the scheme being run at last Summer's Royal
Society exhibition. Seven months gestation between launch and being
noticed is about par.


ClimatePrediction.net has been running for over a year now, and have now
exceeded 10,000,000 years of model runs!

The BBC are running a series of TV programs on BBC 4 about climate
change next week, and are trying to get more people to join the experiment
See ; http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/hottopics/climatechange/


I hope the programmes are a bit more intelligent than the feature on BBC
NEWS24 the other day implying that coastal erosion around Happisburgh
during the past year was a direct result of climate change. They didn't
say what changes they thought had occurred. The reality is that soft
coastal cliffs have always been eroded by the sea and always will be,
irrespective of whether or not there is a change in climate. If sea
level rises significantly the rate of erosion will undoubtedly increase
but that hasn't happened yet.

Norman.
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On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:25:02 +0000, Norman Lynagh
wrote:

I hope the programmes are a bit more intelligent than the feature on BBC
NEWS24 the other day implying that coastal erosion around Happisburgh
during the past year was a direct result of climate change. They didn't
say what changes they thought had occurred. The reality is that soft
coastal cliffs have always been eroded by the sea and always will be,
irrespective of whether or not there is a change in climate. If sea
level rises significantly the rate of erosion will undoubtedly increase
but that hasn't happened yet.


This was Very Bad Science, and isn't that area of the UK slowly
sinking, of which no mention was made in the television report?

Radio Four news also featured this item and did mention land sinkage
as a contributory factor.

I've now given up expecting any BBC 'science correspondent' to report
correctly and objectively particularly as specialist correspondents
appear to change hat depending on who's available on the day.

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"Norman Lynagh" wrote in
message ...
In message , Alastair McDonald
k writes

"Rodney Blackall" wrote in message
.. .
In article .com,
Keith (Southend)G wrote:
For any who have been running this over the last couple of years a NEW
version is about to be realeased.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4702636.stm

http://www.climateprediction.net/

Sounds extremely similar to the scheme being run at last Summer's Royal
Society exhibition. Seven months gestation between launch and being
noticed is about par.


ClimatePrediction.net has been running for over a year now, and have now
exceeded 10,000,000 years of model runs!

The BBC are running a series of TV programs on BBC 4 about climate
change next week, and are trying to get more people to join the experiment
See ; http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/hottopics/climatechange/


I hope the programmes are a bit more intelligent than the feature on BBC
NEWS24 the other day implying that coastal erosion around Happisburgh
during the past year was a direct result of climate change. They didn't
say what changes they thought had occurred. The reality is that soft
coastal cliffs have always been eroded by the sea and always will be,
irrespective of whether or not there is a change in climate. If sea
level rises significantly the rate of erosion will undoubtedly increase
but that hasn't happened yet.


Sea levels rose by 20 cm during the last century, but the effects are only
seen during exceptional high tides, which are infrequent. Moreover, a
one foot rise in sea level can easily be held by building embankments.
Therefore any dangers are easy to argue away, just as you have done.

On the BBC Six o'clock news tonight, they reported on a new scientific
assessment.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4720104.stm

If you click on the "See how much of the UK could disappear if sea levels
rise"
video in the top right hand corner, then you can see how they showed where
another/the same bungalow had fallen off a cliff. They also show a map of
the areas that would be flooded if sea levels rise by 7 m, the amount when a
computer model is run for 1000 years. In general the damage does not look
too bad, unless you are a Londoner, or live in the Hampshire Basin like me :-(

Cheers, Alastair.



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Sea levels rose by 20 cm during the last century, but the effects are only
seen during exceptional high tides, which are infrequent. Moreover, a
one foot rise in sea level can easily be held by building embankments.


Not easily, even if the money were available, which it normally isn't.

The level of Penzance prom was raised following the Good Friday 1962 storm,
which caused extensive flooding.
Of course, what actually happens is the sea hits the prom, shoots 100 feet
in the air (regularly, I've got pictures to show it) and floods the lower
area behind. This has subsequently been offset to some extent by valves in
the storm drains etc.

As well as sea level rising, Cornwall is sinking - If you ever fly into
Scilly on a clear day you can clearly sea the old field hedges (granite
walls to the English) extending across the sand & under the sea.

Raising the level of the sea defences can make things worse, by trapping so
much water behind, and if they are breached - well New Orleans here we come.

On the plus side 8 -10 foot swell today, shame it's so cold.

Graham


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"Norman Lynagh" wrote in
message ...
In message , Alastair McDonald
k writes

"Rodney Blackall" wrote in message
. ..
In article .com,
Keith (Southend)G wrote:
For any who have been running this over the last couple of years a NEW
version is about to be realeased.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4702636.stm

http://www.climateprediction.net/

Sounds extremely similar to the scheme being run at last Summer's Royal
Society exhibition. Seven months gestation between launch and being
noticed is about par.


ClimatePrediction.net has been running for over a year now, and have now
exceeded 10,000,000 years of model runs!

The BBC are running a series of TV programs on BBC 4 about climate
change next week, and are trying to get more people to join the experiment
See ; http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/hottopics/climatechange/


I hope the programmes are a bit more intelligent than the feature on BBC
NEWS24 the other day implying that coastal erosion around Happisburgh
during the past year was a direct result of climate change. They didn't
say what changes they thought had occurred. The reality is that soft
coastal cliffs have always been eroded by the sea and always will be,
irrespective of whether or not there is a change in climate. If sea level
rises significantly the rate of erosion will undoubtedly increase but that
hasn't happened yet.

Norman.
(delete "thisbit" twice to e-mail)
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