"Paul Bartlett" wrote in message
...
In message , Philip Eden
writes
Has it really been 10 years? I was a founder member along with the others
that enrolled. Sadly I have had to rather neglect the group for five
years and have come back to something 'different'. The fun seems to have
diminished and Phil Layton's snowman is no longer a key issue.

Paul,

For me the WMO snow man is still a key issue. Its just there's not been
enough blessed snow in the SE to make him to WMO standards.

For those new to the group, here's a repeat of the thread:

From: Philip Layton - view profile
Date: Tues, Dec 2 1997 12:00 am
Email: (Philip Layton)
Groups: uk.sci.weather


Paul, I hate to tell you this, but the WMO Snowman has been born.
He's got a bottom about 2'6-3' in diameter, and a head of about 1-1'3
in diameter.
I dread his demise, as on past performance that has been the end of
the winter!
--
__________________________________________________ _
Phil Layton


Guildford. UK.


From: PAUL BARTLETT - view profile
Date: Tues, Dec 2 1997 12:00 am
Email: PAUL BARTLETT
Groups: uk.sci.weather



Now Phil please! Can we have the dimensions in mm's.
And height not specified! Tut. Tut.
Does he have a Euro-carrot for a nose and imported coal for eyes?
His demise seems not too far away looking at the latest miserable
machinery.
Good to see the phoenix rise again from the ashes though..wish him well
from me.
He will be back!
Cheers
Paul



From: Philip Layton - view profile
Date: Tues, Dec 2 1997 12:00 am
Email: (Philip Layton)
Groups: uk.sci.weather

On Tue, 2 Dec 1997 20:50:13 +0000, PAUL BARTLETT



wrote:
Now Phil please! Can we have the dimensions in mm's.

Ok, I'm sorry Its about 800mm round the base,
and 340mms around his head

And height not specified! Tut. Tut.
Height = bottom plus head = 1140mms

Does he have a Euro-carrot for a nose and imported coal for eyes?

Absolutely. He's ISO9000 or whatever it is these days.
AND he's got ears, but my daughter did ask what they were. In fact the
snow was so bendy and sticky, I could have made a set of ice
Teletubbies......

His demise seems not too far away looking at the latest miserable
machinery.

I'll get a fog patch and ground frost to tie him over.


Good to see the phoenix rise again from the ashes though..wish him well
from me.
Will do.
He will be back!


Along with his mate.....!

--

Philip Eden wrote:


By all means criticise me or my words, but please be
constructive in your criticism. And if the end result is that
uk.sci.weather returns to its best, and old friends turn up
again, I shall be happy. And I promise no more proprietorial
throwing my weight around for another ten years.

Philip

Geez, has it been as long as that??

AAARGHHHH!!

Happy Birthday - although I've only been around for around 8 or so of
them years...

Les
--
Les Crossan,
Wallsend, Tyne & Wear
54.95N 1.5W
Home of the Wallsend StormCam and the Backup USW FAQ -
www.uksevereweather.org.uk

Thanks Philip - its the only news group I subscribe to and its part of my
24/7 routine!
Accessed from everywhere. Brilliant!
All the best for the next 10.
Phil

Phil

As a lurker and very occasional poster over the last 3 years, just a genuine
thank you for getting it all rolling. Also to all the regulars who have
shared their knowledge (and opinions!), thank you - I've learned lots!

Maurice Smith

From snowy Sandwick in Shetland

On 1/3/06 7:13 pm, in article ,
"Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote:

Not quite a birthday, but today marks the 10th anniversary of
this newsgroup's conception when I submitted a "request for
discussion" and the proposed newsgroup charter to usenet
uk-hierarchy admin. This was the culmination of several weeks
of toying with the idea, discovering how it was done, talking
to the people who had set up other newsgroups, and so on.
Had I known how much aggro that creation process would
bring, I would never have started!

"Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote in message
...
It is not the village idiots who irritate, it is the pub bores.
Just one or two ... ego-trippers, grandstanders, self-obsessed,
self-justifying, verbally incontinent, and like most pub bores
they probably won't even recognise themselves from this
description. That they might be widely kill-filed would
astonish them.

Would a certain poster (ego-trippers, grandstanders, self-obsessed) from
Coulsdon be amongst them I ask?:-)

--
Joe

Congratulations USW!

Being a relative newcomer (about 4 or 5 years, is it?) I like reading the
posts here, even though there are often many which are above my head. (Yes,
Martin, I know that much of what I don't follow is explained in the FAQs and
I promise to read every word of them once I've finished my OU degree).

I am one of the unscientific ones, and if I have been sufficiently
unscientific to annoy some of you, I am sorry.

However I also agree that the number of posters whom I find irritating is
small, and easy to cope with.

Here's to the next 10 years!

Anne
(in snow-covered Fochabers)

I must have enjoyed (endured?) at least six years now and I also would like
to thank all those involved for the pleasure it has given me. It is my
actual birthday today and I had the most appropriate card you could imagine.
I may scan it for all to see if I can find somewhere suitable to put the
pic.

Dave, S.essex, -2.4C, 1003mb, 73%RH

Philip Eden wrote:
Not quite a birthday, but today marks the 10th anniversary of
this newsgroup's conception when I submitted a "request for
discussion" and the proposed newsgroup charter to usenet
uk-hierarchy admin. This was the culmination of several weeks
of toying with the idea, discovering how it was done, talking
to the people who had set up other newsgroups, and so on.
Had I known how much aggro that creation process would
bring, I would never have started!

I hope that you will excuse me if I become ever-so-slightly
proprietorial ... it is, after all, the first time in ten years.

Firstly I need to acknowledge the half-dozen or so who
readily and enthusiastically lobbied for the fast-track
(oxymoron, that ... it took six weeks!) creation of the newsgroup.
And the biggest bouquets go, of course, to Martin for creating
and maintaining the FAQ pages so effectively.

It's funny to recall that, way back in 1996, I feared that the group
might be a damp squib. There were days in the first few months
when no-one posted at all, and six posts in 24 hours was
regarded as busy.

The Met Office quickly discouraged its employees from
contributing, although I was never quite sure whether that was
because the newsgroup was created by that evil Philip Eden
and therefore must be inherently evil itself, or just because
they simply feared the freedom it provided. Whichever, they
still actively discourage involvement, which I think says more
about them than it does about us. And more power to the
dozens of MO folk who do post here but still feel the need
to do so anonymously. Exeter, evidently, is still a Warsaw Pact
country.

But I wonder if I am alone in thinking that uk.sci.weather's
best days are behind us. People come and people go, but we
have lost many regulars in the last 2 or 3 years, and several of
them have let me know the reason for their departure. I almost
followed the same route last year for the same reason. Others
prefer to use their kill-files.

It is not the village idiots who irritate, it is the pub bores.
Just one or two ... ego-trippers, grandstanders, self-obsessed,
self-justifying, verbally incontinent, and like most pub bores
they probably won't even recognise themselves from this
description. That they might be widely kill-filed would
astonish them.

This might, therefore, be a good opportunity for everyone to
re-read the newsgroup's charter. It is absolutely not a list of rules
which must be obeyed; rather, it is a set of guidelines whose
objective is the happy continuance of this newsgroup:

quote
This group is essentially for the discussion of daily weather
events, chiefly affecting the UK and adjacent parts of Europe,
both past and predicted. The discussion is open to all, but
contributions on a practical scientific level are encouraged.
It may also contain postings of observations during
interesting weather episodes. The group is expected to be
patronised by both amateurs and professionals (including
academics), but it is primarily for weather enthusiasts rather
than research scientists. Any discussion of climate issues
should be from a scientific standpoint and not a political
(environmental-activist) one.
unquote

By all means criticise me or my words, but please be
constructive in your criticism. And if the end result is that
uk.sci.weather returns to its best, and old friends turn up
again, I shall be happy. And I promise no more proprietorial
throwing my weight around for another ten years.


No criticism is justified.
Let the next ten years begin ...

--
Gianna

"Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote in news:4405f1d6$0
:

Not quite a birthday, but today marks the 10th anniversary of
this newsgroup's conception when I submitted a "request for
discussion" and the proposed newsgroup charter to usenet
uk-hierarchy admin. This was the culmination of several weeks
of toying with the idea, discovering how it was done, talking
to the people who had set up other newsgroups, and so on.
Had I known how much aggro that creation process would
bring, I would never have started!
snip

Having been through the same process some time ago with another newsgroup
(though not as original proposer), I can most certainly sympathise with
that! Thank you for your work in setting up this group, and to all a
(slightly belated, but nicely cold) Happy Birthday!

--
Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl.

In uk.sci.weather on Thu, 2 Mar 2006, David Buttery
wrote :
"Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote in news:4405f1d6$0
:

Not quite a birthday, but today marks the 10th anniversary of
this newsgroup's conception when I submitted a "request for
discussion" and the proposed newsgroup charter to usenet
uk-hierarchy admin. This was the culmination of several weeks
of toying with the idea, discovering how it was done, talking
to the people who had set up other newsgroups, and so on.
Had I known how much aggro that creation process would
bring, I would never have started!
snip

Having been through the same process some time ago with another newsgroup
(though not as original proposer), I can most certainly sympathise with
that!

I've been the proponent of several UK newsgroups, and it can indeed be
an irritating/frustrating process.

I'm glad Philip persevered though.
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham