So whilst you were sleeping. As if worrying about whether there will be
a total ban on hosepipes for washing your car etc., was a viable
aternative: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4818332.stm

Police detained about 17 people as some rallies turned violent on the
second day of the World Water Forum.

More than 120 countries are represented at the conference, which has
pledged to focus on ways to improve access to water for the world's
poor.

But protesters claim the forum is being held in the interest of big
corporations and their profits, rather than that of the poor.

Water is scarce in Mexico City, with many of its inhabitants managing
on just one hour of running water per week.

*******

Reminds me of the story of the two little old ladies, the last of their
family line who are being condemned for letting too many horses run
wild on their land.

Which the US government signed a treaty to give them back but now finds
it can't because all the water on it is being diverted to Las Vegas.

*******

The New Tories will lose the next election if this continues and we
have to have water meters.

"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
oups.com...
So whilst you were sleeping. As if worrying about whether there will be
a total ban on hosepipes for washing your car etc., was a viable
aternative: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4818332.stm

Police detained about 17 people as some rallies turned violent on the
second day of the World Water Forum.

More than 120 countries are represented at the conference, which has
pledged to focus on ways to improve access to water for the world's
poor.

But protesters claim the forum is being held in the interest of big
corporations and their profits, rather than that of the poor.

Water is scarce in Mexico City, with many of its inhabitants managing
on just one hour of running water per week.

*******

Reminds me of the story of the two little old ladies, the last of their
family line who are being condemned for letting too many horses run
wild on their land.

Which the US government signed a treaty to give them back but now finds
it can't because all the water on it is being diverted to Las Vegas.

*******

The New Tories will lose the next election if this continues and we
have to have water meters.


Haven't washed my car for over a year. I heard recently that Thames Water is
now owned by a German firm. If we beat them in the coming world cup things
could cut up rough.

Weatherlawyer wrote:
So whilst you were sleeping. As if worrying about whether there will be
a total ban on hosepipes for washing your car etc., was a viable
aternative: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4818332.stm

Police detained about 17 people as some rallies turned violent on the
second day of the World Water Forum.

More than 120 countries are represented at the conference, which has
pledged to focus on ways to improve access to water for the world's
poor.

But protesters claim the forum is being held in the interest of big
corporations and their profits, rather than that of the poor.

Water is scarce in Mexico City, with many of its inhabitants managing
on just one hour of running water per week.

*******

Reminds me of the story of the two little old ladies, the last of their
family line who are being condemned for letting too many horses run
wild on their land.

Which the US government signed a treaty to give them back but now finds
it can't because all the water on it is being diverted to Las Vegas.

*******

The New Tories will lose the next election if this continues and we
have to have water meters.

All water should be metered just like gas and electricity.
It's not an infinite resource even if it does fall out of the sky. If
you want to use a hundred gallons washing your car or lay water out to
dry in the back garden you should pay for it. The public need
educating on this problem. The earlier part of your post shows how
cushy we have it compared with some places.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

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I would like to add:


All water should be metered just like gas and electricity.

Try saying that in Wales where local rainfall is sufficient for local
needs but valleys were flooded and people had to leave their homes in
order that water could be supplied to English urban communites.

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"Elaine Jones" wrote in message
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Quoting from message
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posted on 18 Mar 2006 by Tudor Hughes
I would like to add:


All water should be metered just like gas and electricity.

Try saying that in Wales where local rainfall is sufficient for local
needs but valleys were flooded and people had to leave their homes in
order that water could be supplied to English urban communites.

What's that got to do with water meters?

Col
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Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.

"Tudor Hughes" wrote in message
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All water should be metered just like gas and electricity.
It's not an infinite resource even if it does fall out of the sky. If
you want to use a hundred gallons washing your car or lay water out to
dry in the back garden you should pay for it. The public need
educating on this problem. The earlier part of your post shows how
cushy we have it compared with some places.

And then people bleat 'What about those people with large families?'
Annd I say - Well what about them?

I don't see large families paying a standing charge for food, a kind
of eat all you want for a tenner set-up so why for that other essential, water?
So they'll pay more. Tough. THey're using more so they'll pay more.

As long as there is provision to help the really poor (which there will
be by all accounts) then water meters are just fine.

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.

Well I have to say most people in London haven't a clue where water, gas and
electricity comes from. Most are so ignorant of wastage they believe a
Thermostat is a window!.

Two years ago in the Nunhead area there was a major leak and for almost a
week during a particularly hot time. Thames distributed water from
distribution points, but the main factor for me was hygene. How long before
toilets can't be flushed in the way that we've all come to take for granted.
If you can't flush the loo's for several days in Summer than things really
turn nasty.

That particular incident made me aware of how we take the modern developed
world for granted. I have to say that most folk I encounter through the
course of work do not give a hoot, If their water is cut of or power stops
they expect their Social Worker or Local Authority to resolve the issue. As
i've said people generally just don't know where that energy comes from when
they switch that kettle on.

So for me this growing potential for power outages and water shortages just
highlight the fact that the last thirty years "wev'e never had it so good".

However putting on my old lefty hat (real lefty not all that fake PC stuff)
I still think it's wrong that a country that has had historically more than
it's fair share of water should be caught out so. Is it purely down the lack
off precipitation in certain areas of the country? If so fair enough
there's no precedent in history bar the 20th century onwards for fresh clean
drinking water.
London was drawing water water from local wells only as far back as 150
years ago, and even then it was contaminated with all sorts -see Dr John
Snow 1850 http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/snow.html

Any how so water is someting we can't take for granted , there has been a
lack of rain fall -only in the south- and people are very wastefull and
water meters could help focus people as to careless use. But the cynic in
many of us also see a chance for the water companies to cash in.

So I'm torn as to the use of meters. For me a fair method would be to band
average individual neccesaary usei.e hygiene , drinking at a reasonable cost
, then the other stuff like washing the car , filling pools ect could be set
a a higher level. Thefore those that are sensible in there usage are'nt
exploited and those that are idiots pay through the nose.
Maybe I'm naive here but most of our rain when it falls goes simply down
the drain via roofs guttering drains and than the sewage system. Wouldn't it
be great if all that catchment was collected and saved.

As for me it's rain butts all round this spring.

"Jim Webster" wrote in message
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"Col" wrote in message
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What's that got to do with water meters?

Col

if there were water meters and people used less water then we wouldn't need
to flood so many rural valleys
It is a source of irritation in Cumbria as well at times, although at least
the damage was done long ago and we are used to it


Well they should be pleased then.
The original statement was that water should be metered like gas and electricity.

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.

"Elaine Jones" wrote in message
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Quoting from message
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posted on 18 Mar 2006 by Tudor Hughes
I would like to add:


All water should be metered just like gas and electricity.

Try saying that in Wales where local rainfall is sufficient for local
needs but valleys were flooded and people had to leave their homes in
order that water could be supplied to English urban communites.

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.Virtual. Corn Dollies, Cards, Coasters, Mousemats, Kids' Tshirts
StrongArm Jones' Pages at http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/ejones
.RISC PC. Corwen, North Wales; Steam Traction;CMMGB&Yukon Volunteers.


Elaine . I as a Jenkins feel you have a point. Considering that Wales and
Scotland are heavily subsidised by the English tax payer I would like to see
Wales break totally from England thus putting more money into Lawrence
Jenkins pocket who by the way happens to live in London -England.

You know Elaine there's a lovely Scottish chap where I work he heads the IT
Dept. He's a typical sort of lefty guardian reader type you know hates the
English, the Americans and increasingly the Jews. But nonetheless he a very
intelligent lovely man.

He confessed to me and my colleagues last week that he's beginning to hate
going back home, as all he hears is hatred for the English, bile upon pile
of historically inaccurate crap, that he finds through the actual experience
of day to day life in London is totally inaccurate.

If you want to keep viewing history through Mel Gibson's eyes that that's
down to you, but please send any complaints to William the ******* of
Normandy I think you'll find many of your gripes linked to him.

In addition I'd like to see that Welsh speaking TV channel taken of our
screens, as I don't speak Welsh and never will do.
One more thing what's going to happen to the lottery funded (all Welsh
lottery ticket sales? not)
Millennium stadium once the new Wembley stadium is up and running. It would
be good for storage.

"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
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Any how so water is someting we can't take for granted , there has been a
lack of rain fall -only in the south- and people are very wastefull and
water meters could help focus people as to careless use. But the cynic in
many of us also see a chance for the water companies to cash in.


The south and east may be the driest parts of the country but they're
not *that* dry by World or even European standards. 500mm or so in
the driest parts. OK the drought has made this less but surely there
has still been ample rain to maintain a highly developed technological
society. Other places seem to manage it. Look at Las Vegas. A huge
city out in the middle of the desert. Where does their water come from?
Piped in from hundreds of miles away I would imagine. If they can do
it, why can't we? Mediterrreanean countries seem to get get though their
hot, dry summers OK. You don't hear of tourists being warned of water
shortages on the Spanish Costas, do you?
And closer to home, what of those areas on the near continent that have
a similar climate to SE England and are likely to have been experiencing
a similar drought? Areas like Belgium and NE France. I wonder if they
are suffering the same water shortage problems.

A country famed for it's wet climate perpetually beset by water shortages.
It would be funny if it wasn't so serious.

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.