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What's wrong with UKMO? They've gone all buzz wordy off late. I popped in to
yjeir website today and had a look at January and February's news updates
http://www.met-office.gov.uk/health/news/index.html

Blimey they've been so enclosed by the Labour Party they've finally gone all
native.

Remember the days when forecast spoke of occluded fronts atmospheric
pressure, warm fronts, precipitation etc you know the stuff.
Well now they are more concerned with PCT's, IPP's, PCP's, COPD's hold on
here's an example

"Break-out sessions were run at the West Country NPDT Learning Workshop 3.
There was a lot of interest among the PCTs about participating in the Health
Forecasting project."

Bloody hell steady on is there no end to this nonsense? Apparently not

a.. encourage practices to stratify patients so that they are ready to
receive forecasts and make calls;
b.. distribute patient and clinicians packs to all those involved;
c.. investigate holding a patient workshop;
d.. encourage the local paper to run a piece on health forecasting and
follow it up with regular advertising of the forecast;
e.. investigate becoming involved with text and e-mail trials."


Well I've always objected to bad language but what a load of PC S&M SD
C.R.A.P it all is.

With this sort of joint venture developing I can forsee all sorts of
exciting initiatives and a possible smearing of the boundaries

------------------------------------------------------------
"Ah Nurse Fish can you please change that bed barometer!"

"Hello UKMO it's Alf Toots the PCT Chiropodist for Saundersfoot. Mrs Crumm's
corn is playing up again so break out the weather warning amber alerts "


"Dr I'm feeling under the weather"

"Never mind Mr Snow try these new UKMO patient packs take one after meals
with a glass of preciptation."

"Ah Nurse Fish have you done the OBS "

"Yes but I'm concerned about Mrs Blow her pressure has fallen very fast and
she's become wet and windy"
------------------------------------------------------------

Another of these joint initiatives will displaying forecast at your GP
surgery - what ever will they think off next. Can you imagine it.

"I'm just off down to surgery to see the weather forecast"

"Did you make an appointment love"

"No I'm seeing the duty forecaster"

Now I would have thought it would have been easier seeing the forecast at
home!



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On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:41:20 +0000 (UTC), "Lawrence Jenkins"
wrote:

What's wrong with UKMO? They've gone all buzz wordy off late. I popped in to
yjeir website today and had a look at January and February's news updates
http://www.met-office.gov.uk/health/news/index.html

Blimey they've been so enclosed by the Labour Party they've finally gone all
native.

Remember the days when forecast spoke of occluded fronts atmospheric
pressure, warm fronts, precipitation etc you know the stuff.
Well now they are more concerned with PCT's, IPP's, PCP's, COPD's hold on
here's an example

"Break-out sessions were run at the West Country NPDT Learning Workshop 3.
There was a lot of interest among the PCTs about participating in the Health
Forecasting project."

Bloody hell steady on is there no end to this nonsense? Apparently not

a.. encourage practices to stratify patients so that they are ready to
receive forecasts and make calls;
b.. distribute patient and clinicians packs to all those involved;
c.. investigate holding a patient workshop;
d.. encourage the local paper to run a piece on health forecasting and
follow it up with regular advertising of the forecast;
e.. investigate becoming involved with text and e-mail trials."


Well I've always objected to bad language but what a load of PC S&M SD
C.R.A.P it all is.

With this sort of joint venture developing I can forsee all sorts of
exciting initiatives and a possible smearing of the boundaries

------------------------------------------------------------
"Ah Nurse Fish can you please change that bed barometer!"

"Hello UKMO it's Alf Toots the PCT Chiropodist for Saundersfoot. Mrs Crumm's
corn is playing up again so break out the weather warning amber alerts "


"Dr I'm feeling under the weather"

"Never mind Mr Snow try these new UKMO patient packs take one after meals
with a glass of preciptation."

"Ah Nurse Fish have you done the OBS "

"Yes but I'm concerned about Mrs Blow her pressure has fallen very fast and
she's become wet and windy"
------------------------------------------------------------

Another of these joint initiatives will displaying forecast at your GP
surgery - what ever will they think off next. Can you imagine it.

"I'm just off down to surgery to see the weather forecast"

"Did you make an appointment love"

"No I'm seeing the duty forecaster"

Now I would have thought it would have been easier seeing the forecast at
home!


I work for the NHS as a data analyst and am involved in part with the
data colation of this / similar study. As Im sure you are aware, the
weather has an impact on all our lives wether through stopping us
enjoying our social activities or more seriously, our health. COPD is
for those that dont know Chronic Obstrcutive Pulmonary Disease and is
prevelant in areas of past coal mine activity or other industry that
produced very small dust particulates. The weather effects can be felt
by these vulnerable members of society and the sudden onset of a cold
spell or prolonged damp / wet conditions sets of this type of
condition off. Hospitals have to be able to plan and forecast
admissions and discharges and work in relation with the met office to
produce models and forecast possible admissions on a daily basis in
these particular areas. There are more variables to consider in the
NHS than one can possibly poke a stick at and being flippant about
what is a real concern to a lot of people is somewhat arrogant and
judgement misplaced.

Ian
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"Prome" wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:41:20 +0000 (UTC), "Lawrence Jenkins"
wrote:

What's wrong with UKMO? They've gone all buzz wordy off late. I popped in
to
yjeir website today and had a look at January and February's news updates
http://www.met-office.gov.uk/health/news/index.html

Blimey they've been so enclosed by the Labour Party they've finally gone
all
native.

Remember the days when forecast spoke of occluded fronts atmospheric
pressure, warm fronts, precipitation etc you know the stuff.
Well now they are more concerned with PCT's, IPP's, PCP's, COPD's hold on
here's an example

"Break-out sessions were run at the West Country NPDT Learning Workshop 3.
There was a lot of interest among the PCTs about participating in the
Health
Forecasting project."

Bloody hell steady on is there no end to this nonsense? Apparently not

a.. encourage practices to stratify patients so that they are ready to
receive forecasts and make calls;
b.. distribute patient and clinicians packs to all those involved;
c.. investigate holding a patient workshop;
d.. encourage the local paper to run a piece on health forecasting and
follow it up with regular advertising of the forecast;
e.. investigate becoming involved with text and e-mail trials."


Well I've always objected to bad language but what a load of PC S&M SD
C.R.A.P it all is.

With this sort of joint venture developing I can forsee all sorts of
exciting initiatives and a possible smearing of the boundaries

------------------------------------------------------------
"Ah Nurse Fish can you please change that bed barometer!"

"Hello UKMO it's Alf Toots the PCT Chiropodist for Saundersfoot. Mrs
Crumm's
corn is playing up again so break out the weather warning amber alerts "


"Dr I'm feeling under the weather"

"Never mind Mr Snow try these new UKMO patient packs take one after meals
with a glass of preciptation."

"Ah Nurse Fish have you done the OBS "

"Yes but I'm concerned about Mrs Blow her pressure has fallen very fast
and
she's become wet and windy"
------------------------------------------------------------

Another of these joint initiatives will displaying forecast at your GP
surgery - what ever will they think off next. Can you imagine it.

"I'm just off down to surgery to see the weather forecast"

"Did you make an appointment love"

"No I'm seeing the duty forecaster"

Now I would have thought it would have been easier seeing the forecast at
home!


I work for the NHS as a data analyst and am involved in part with the
data colation of this / similar study. As Im sure you are aware, the
weather has an impact on all our lives wether through stopping us
enjoying our social activities or more seriously, our health. COPD is
for those that dont know Chronic Obstrcutive Pulmonary Disease and is
prevelant in areas of past coal mine activity or other industry that
produced very small dust particulates. The weather effects can be felt
by these vulnerable members of society and the sudden onset of a cold
spell or prolonged damp / wet conditions sets of this type of
condition off. Hospitals have to be able to plan and forecast
admissions and discharges and work in relation with the met office to
produce models and forecast possible admissions on a daily basis in
these particular areas. There are more variables to consider in the
NHS than one can possibly poke a stick at and being flippant about
what is a real concern to a lot of people is somewhat arrogant and
judgement misplaced.

Ian


I think they call it showboating-hows the MRSA?


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On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 20:22:00 +0000 (UTC), "Lawrence Jenkins"
wrote:


"Prome" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:41:20 +0000 (UTC), "Lawrence Jenkins"
wrote:

What's wrong with UKMO? They've gone all buzz wordy off late. I popped in
to
yjeir website today and had a look at January and February's news updates
http://www.met-office.gov.uk/health/news/index.html

Blimey they've been so enclosed by the Labour Party they've finally gone
all
native.

Remember the days when forecast spoke of occluded fronts atmospheric
pressure, warm fronts, precipitation etc you know the stuff.
Well now they are more concerned with PCT's, IPP's, PCP's, COPD's hold on
here's an example

"Break-out sessions were run at the West Country NPDT Learning Workshop 3.
There was a lot of interest among the PCTs about participating in the
Health
Forecasting project."

Bloody hell steady on is there no end to this nonsense? Apparently not

a.. encourage practices to stratify patients so that they are ready to
receive forecasts and make calls;
b.. distribute patient and clinicians packs to all those involved;
c.. investigate holding a patient workshop;
d.. encourage the local paper to run a piece on health forecasting and
follow it up with regular advertising of the forecast;
e.. investigate becoming involved with text and e-mail trials."


Well I've always objected to bad language but what a load of PC S&M SD
C.R.A.P it all is.

With this sort of joint venture developing I can forsee all sorts of
exciting initiatives and a possible smearing of the boundaries

------------------------------------------------------------
"Ah Nurse Fish can you please change that bed barometer!"

"Hello UKMO it's Alf Toots the PCT Chiropodist for Saundersfoot. Mrs
Crumm's
corn is playing up again so break out the weather warning amber alerts "


"Dr I'm feeling under the weather"

"Never mind Mr Snow try these new UKMO patient packs take one after meals
with a glass of preciptation."

"Ah Nurse Fish have you done the OBS "

"Yes but I'm concerned about Mrs Blow her pressure has fallen very fast
and
she's become wet and windy"
------------------------------------------------------------

Another of these joint initiatives will displaying forecast at your GP
surgery - what ever will they think off next. Can you imagine it.

"I'm just off down to surgery to see the weather forecast"

"Did you make an appointment love"

"No I'm seeing the duty forecaster"

Now I would have thought it would have been easier seeing the forecast at
home!


I work for the NHS as a data analyst and am involved in part with the
data colation of this / similar study. As Im sure you are aware, the
weather has an impact on all our lives wether through stopping us
enjoying our social activities or more seriously, our health. COPD is
for those that dont know Chronic Obstrcutive Pulmonary Disease and is
prevelant in areas of past coal mine activity or other industry that
produced very small dust particulates. The weather effects can be felt
by these vulnerable members of society and the sudden onset of a cold
spell or prolonged damp / wet conditions sets of this type of
condition off. Hospitals have to be able to plan and forecast
admissions and discharges and work in relation with the met office to
produce models and forecast possible admissions on a daily basis in
these particular areas. There are more variables to consider in the
NHS than one can possibly poke a stick at and being flippant about
what is a real concern to a lot of people is somewhat arrogant and
judgement misplaced.

Ian


I think they call it showboating-hows the MRSA?



The MRSA in my particular trust is really low, although that being
said , most cases of MRSA are actuallt brought into the hospital
environment from external sources, namely the patient themselves. Most
people carry it on them most of the time, it only becomes an issue
when it affects an open wound and the papers then cry Dirty
hospitals..... Bit sensationalist really

Ian


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