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You'd think we were all in the middle of a cold March, from the daily
weather forecasts and press reports. No doubt some places are but not here. After the last two days with temperatures exceeding 10.0 deg C, I have calculated the averages for Solent MRSC for the last week and the last two weeks (thanks to Keith Harris's www.southendweather.net) - they are closest enough to mid month to give a rough comparison. Unfortunately there is no long term record for Solent MRSC or my own location but there is for nearby Bognor Regis - which has a similar seaside exposure as Lee-on-the-Solent. Comparisons are therefore with the March averages for Bognor (taken from the Met Office website). Feb 14 to Feb 20 2006 (Solent compared to Bognor monthly averages) Mean Max 8.1; long term mean max 9.0; deficit 0.9 deg C. Mean Min 2.4; long term mean min 3.5; deficit 1.1 deg C. Overall mean deficit 1.0 deg C. Feb 7 to Feb 20 2006 (Solent compared to Bognor averages) Mean Max 7.7; long term mean max 9.0; deficit 1.3 deg C. Mean Min 3.0; long term mean min 3.5; deficit 0.5 deg C. Overall mean deficit 0.9 deg C. The last week or two has been nowhere near what I'd describe as a March cold spell - not down here anyway. How cold has it been elsewhere? -- Dave Fareham. |
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![]() Bracknell (Tawfield) ... March (so far, up to 0900 GMT readings 20th) Mean 24hr maximum:... 07.0 [-2.9 anomaly on eLTA 1971-2000] Mean 24hr minimum:... 00.6 [-2.8 anomaly on eLTA 1971-2000] Mean of 24hr max & min:... 03.8 [-2.9 anomaly on eLTA 1971-2000] Been cold enough here ;-) Martin. -- Martin Rowley: data via - http://homepage.ntlworld.com/booty.weather/metindex.htm Bracknell (Wooden Hill/Tawfield), Berkshire NGR: SU 854 667 Elev: 80m Lat: 51DEG23MIN30SEC(N): Long: 00DEG46MIN28SEC(W) |
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![]() Feb 7 to Feb 20 2006 (Solent compared to Bognor averages) Mean Max 7.7; long term mean max 9.0; deficit 1.3 deg C. Mean Min 3.0; long term mean min 3.5; deficit 0.5 deg C. Overall mean deficit 0.9 deg C. The last week or two has been nowhere near what I'd describe as a March cold spell - not down here anyway. How cold has it been elsewhere? -- Dave Fareham. After an excursion to the dizzy heights of 9.9°C yesterday (with strong thermals as well-apparently)it's back to colder conditions here with a Tmax of 5.0° late morning and then settling at 4.0° most of the afternoon. Still on to be the coldest March on record here (since 1979) with a monthly mean of 3.1°(-3.3LTA). Mean max 6.4°, mean min -0.3°,precipitation 23.8mm (50%) and sunshine 77hrs (72%) so far. All the best -- George in Epping, West Essex (107m asl) www.eppingweather.co.uk www.winter1947.co.uk |
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Been cold here in Penzance
I've only ever recorded a Max Temp of 6 degrees in March on 7 occasions (records start 1992), 3 were this year. This included 5.0 on 17th, my coldest March day on record. It's also currently my coldest March on record, by a fair margin, and -1.3 from the 1971-2000 LTA Graham |
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20/03/2006 17:15:03
Dave Ludlow wrote in message You'd think we were all in the middle of a cold March, from the daily weather forecasts and press reports. No doubt some places are but not here. After the last two days with temperatures exceeding 10.0 deg C, I have calculated the averages for Solent MRSC for the last week and the last two weeks (thanks to Keith Harris's www.southendweather. net) - they are closest enough to mid month to give a rough comparison. Unfortunately there is no long term record for Solent MRSC or my own location but there is for nearby Bognor Regis - which has a similar seaside exposure as Lee-on-the-Solent. Comparisons are therefore with the March averages for Bognor (taken from the Met Office website). Feb 14 to Feb 20 2006 (Solent compared to Bognor monthly averages) Mean Max 8.1; long term mean max 9.0; deficit 0.9 deg C. Mean Min 2.4; long term mean min 3.5; deficit 1.1 deg C. Overall mean deficit 1.0 deg C. Feb 7 to Feb 20 2006 (Solent compared to Bognor averages) Mean Max 7.7; long term mean max 9.0; deficit 1.3 deg C. Mean Min 3.0; long term mean min 3.5; deficit 0.5 deg C. Overall mean deficit 0.9 deg C. The last week or two has been nowhere near what I'd describe as a March cold spell - not down here anyway. How cold has it been elsewhere? -- Dave Fareham. Some of us are. Coldest March (1st-20th) on Fair Isle since records began way back in 1974! Daily mean temp has crept up to 3.1C (3.2C 1987), but this is still 1.6C below the LT mean. We've had a snow drift lying at sea level, at the foot of steep ENE- facing cliffs for three weeks now! Dave Fair Isle |
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![]() "Dave Ludlow" wrote in message ... Unfortunately there is no long term record for Solent MRSC or my own location but there is for nearby Bognor Regis - which has a similar seaside exposure as Lee-on-the-Solent. Comparisons are therefore with the March averages for Bognor (taken from the Met Office website). Ooooh, I think that's something of a leap of faith. So far this month the mean max at Lee/Solent is 7.8°C, at Thorney Island, 7.0°C, and at Bognor 6.8°C. I'd always had a feeling that Lee was a particularly warm spot without ever being quite interested enough to investigate ... but now, looking at the geological map, I note that Lee sits on marine gravels while there are patches of boulder clay above chalk at Thorney Island and boulder clay above London clay at Bognor. Fareham looks geologically complex so without knowing exactly where you live it's not possible to say whether you're more like Lee or Thorney. Philip |
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Its been cold here in Coulsdon. One of the reasons for all the media
discussion is the fact that over the past 20 years or so March has been favoured with a good deal of mild weather. My own daffodil guide bears this out with the date steadily becoming earlier for the first flower although March 1996 bucked the trend. It is currently March 12th and there is no sign at the moment nor likely to be for some time yet. This month has come as quite a shock to the public who especially in southern England expect March to be a fairly mild month. Way back in time March could be a real winter month with minus 5C a max temperature in many parts of Surrey mid month 1845. In fact the 1850s and 1860s had some really cold Marches as did the 1880s and of course the great March blizzard of 1891 would be in the headlines for weeks if it occurred today. The coldest March 1785 would be considered a severe winter spell by today's standards. Ian Currie-Coulsdon www.Frostedearth.com "Dave Ludlow" wrote in message ... You'd think we were all in the middle of a cold March, from the daily weather forecasts and press reports. No doubt some places are but not here. After the last two days with temperatures exceeding 10.0 deg C, I have calculated the averages for Solent MRSC for the last week and the last two weeks (thanks to Keith Harris's www.southendweather.net) - they are closest enough to mid month to give a rough comparison. Unfortunately there is no long term record for Solent MRSC or my own location but there is for nearby Bognor Regis - which has a similar seaside exposure as Lee-on-the-Solent. Comparisons are therefore with the March averages for Bognor (taken from the Met Office website). Feb 14 to Feb 20 2006 (Solent compared to Bognor monthly averages) Mean Max 8.1; long term mean max 9.0; deficit 0.9 deg C. Mean Min 2.4; long term mean min 3.5; deficit 1.1 deg C. Overall mean deficit 1.0 deg C. Feb 7 to Feb 20 2006 (Solent compared to Bognor averages) Mean Max 7.7; long term mean max 9.0; deficit 1.3 deg C. Mean Min 3.0; long term mean min 3.5; deficit 0.5 deg C. Overall mean deficit 0.9 deg C. The last week or two has been nowhere near what I'd describe as a March cold spell - not down here anyway. How cold has it been elsewhere? -- Dave Fareham. |
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It's been an exceptionally cold and snowy March here.
Statistics for the 1st to 20th March: Mean max: 4.1C Mean min: 0.1C Overall mean: 2.1C Snow/sleet falling days: 13, snow lying(50%) :11 1971-2000 averages for Dyce are 8.3C, 1.7C and 5.0C (for the whole month) with 8 days snow falling and 2 lying. Temperature has not reached 10C once - highest 9.2C on the 8th. Last time March failed to reach 10C was in 1964. In fact only 4 Marches since 1989 have not reached 15C (1994, 1996, 2001 and 2004). If anything the mean will drop over the next few days so looks certain to be the coldest March locally since 1969 possibly even 1962. Also I would imagine that the accumulated snow depth I currently have - 162cm - is more than any other March, since the war, with the exception of 1947 and possibly 1958. It's also likely to have been the highest of any month since at least January 1984. Richard Slessor, Hazlehead, Aberdeen (98m. a.s.l.) |
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Ian Currie wrote:
The coldest March 1785 would be considered a severe winter spell by today's standards. 1674 was colder, was it not? -- Brian Wakem Email: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/b.wakem/myemail.png |
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Brian Wakem writes: Ian Currie wrote: The coldest March 1785 would be considered a severe winter spell by today's standards. 1674 was colder, was it not? March, 1674 had a CET of 1.0C to the nearest half degree, the data for the earliest years of the CET not being sufficient to be any more precise. So it was probably colder than March, 1785, which was 1.2C, but it's not certain. -- John Hall "Hegel was right when he said that we learn from history that man can never learn anything from history." George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950) |
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