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I just missed the article on the OU about a mathematician called
Lanchester, whose work on statistics was used in the study of
meteorology early in the 20th century. The tail end of it seemed quite
interesting though.

Anyone here got any pointers?


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Michael Mcneil wrote:
I just missed the article on the OU about a mathematician called
Lanchester, whose work on statistics was used in the study of
meteorology early in the 20th century. The tail end of it seemed quite
interesting though.

Anyone here got any pointers?


Two lines of pointers could start by searching the words:
"Lanchester-Prandtl theory" - that is about aerodynamics
"stochastic Lanchester equations" - that is about war theory.
Please determine by your tail end, which line you want to follow.

Best regards,
Elena
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Two lines of pointers could start by searching the words:
"Lanchester-Prandtl theory" - that is about aerodynamics
"stochastic Lanchester equations" - that is about war theory.
Please determine by your tail end, which line you want to follow.


Thanks Elena. I found a number of sites about him but very little
detail. I'll try again.




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Two lines of pointers could start by searching the words:
"Lanchester-Prandtl theory" - that is about aerodynamics
"stochastic Lanchester equations" - that is about war theory.
Please determine by your tail end, which line you want to follow.


Thanks Elena. I found a number of sites about him but very little
detail. I'll try again.


If you search using "Frederick Lanchester " in Google, one of the hits is
1910 LANCHESTER DOUBLE LANDAULET
Frederick Willliam Lanchester the "Leonardo" of the Machine Age
F.W. Lanchester - the visionary and Renaissance man
http://www.lanchester.com/Behring1.html

It says "As a young engineer who specialized in the development of gasoline
engines, Lanchester's true interest was mechanical flight. To avoid being
branded a lunatic, he wisely applied his considerable genius to an interim
problem that he believed would advance the science of aeronautics."

HTH,

Cheers, Alastair.


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It says "As a young engineer who specialized in the development of gasoline
engines, Lanchester's true interest was mechanical flight. To avoid being
branded a lunatic, he wisely applied his considerable genius to an interim
problem that he believed would advance the science of aeronautics."


I have no problem with being a lunatic. Too far over the line to be a
genius though.

His work on Aeronautics was contemporoary with Wilbur and Orville
Wright.

Funny how people will give credence to global warming without thinking
about it. Pity no one will take a good look at my particular brand of
lunacy.


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It says "As a young engineer who specialized in the development of

gasoline
engines, Lanchester's true interest was mechanical flight. To avoid being
branded a lunatic, he wisely applied his considerable genius to an interim
problem that he believed would advance the science of aeronautics."


I have no problem with being a lunatic. Too far over the line to be a
genius though.

His work on Aeronautics was contemporoary with Wilbur and Orville
Wright.

Funny how people will give credence to global warming without thinking
about it. Pity no one will take a good look at my particular brand of
lunacy.


Well, Lanchester was not a lunatic, he just feared being branded as one.

My investigations into global warming have resulted in me being branded
a lunatic, not just by you. I have explained before that when the Arctic sea
ice melts, then the resulting rapid climate change will result in horrors of
the
same dimesions as those shown in "The Day after Tomorrow".

So like you I cannot claim to be a genius. Expressing views such as those
above makes me a fool, for fools rush in where angels (such as Landsea)
fear to tread.

Cheers, Alastair.


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Elena Saltikoff writes:
Two lines of pointers could start by searching the words:
"Lanchester-Prandtl theory" - that is about aerodynamics
"stochastic Lanchester equations" - that is about war theory.


He is very famous for the latter in the field of military operational
research.
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So like you I cannot claim to be a genius. Expressing views such as those
above makes me a fool, for fools rush in where angels (such as Landsea)
fear to tread.


I used to believe in plate tech and modern day seismisticism about 20
years ago. I dropped on one of the first textbooks on the subject. It
was written in 1953 I think and although very basic was quite a good
primer. I tried to teach myself a bit more from the Encyclpeadia
Britannica and the like at my local library.

It meant I had to learn from my own mistakes but I could only be
corrected by logic and trial not by peer pressure and glossing over
facts in time to perpare for tests and etc.

The use of logic was the key. I had to try to make sense of it and
without logic there is no sense.

Two tennets:

If you don't understand it you can not believe it and
If you don't understand it it might be because it's wrong.

Concerning global warming. There will be no appreciable change until
all the ice has melted except for the fact that all the ice is melting,
since the heat exchange is going to flatten every other curve. So any
talk of strange weather patterns caused by global warming is likely to
be error prone.

And since these things occurred in biblical times in some cases in
closely monitored time schedules not dissimilar to el nino effects and
the absence of massive air pollution on today's scales.... well..

Then there is the "fact" that we don't know how the land uncovered by
retreating ice is going to behave. Will the absence of ice cover allow
depleted aquifers to recharge in those areas? They should fill very
quickly given the chance, as natural funnels will be exposed (see pingos
and ice lenses etc.)

Note; I am not saying there isn't something very unusual going on, nor
that we are not mistreating the planet desperately badly. If there is a
god I think it best to presume he is very, very angry about it.

I hope he doesn't know about swear words


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"Alastair McDonald" k
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So like you I cannot claim to be a genius. Expressing views such as those
above makes me a fool, for fools rush in where angels (such as Landsea)
fear to tread.


I used to believe in plate tech and modern day seismisticism about 20
years ago. I dropped on one of the first textbooks on the subject. It
was written in 1953 I think and although very basic was quite a good
primer. I tried to teach myself a bit more from the Encyclpeadia
Britannica and the like at my local library.

It meant I had to learn from my own mistakes but I could only be
corrected by logic and trial not by peer pressure and glossing over
facts in time to perpare for tests and etc.

The use of logic was the key. I had to try to make sense of it and
without logic there is no sense.

Two tennets:

If you don't understand it you can not believe it and
If you don't understand it it might be because it's wrong.

Concerning global warming. There will be no appreciable change until
all the ice has melted except for the fact that all the ice is melting,
since the heat exchange is going to flatten every other curve. So any
talk of strange weather patterns caused by global warming is likely to
be error prone.

And since these things occurred in biblical times in some cases in
closely monitored time schedules not dissimilar to el nino effects and
the absence of massive air pollution on today's scales.... well..

Then there is the "fact" that we don't know how the land uncovered by
retreating ice is going to behave. Will the absence of ice cover allow
depleted aquifers to recharge in those areas? They should fill very
quickly given the chance, as natural funnels will be exposed (see pingos
and ice lenses etc.)

Note; I am not saying there isn't something very unusual going on, nor
that we are not mistreating the planet desperately badly. If there is a
god I think it best to presume he is very, very angry about it.

I hope he doesn't know about swear words


He seems to understand the word "tsunami"!

Cheers, Alastair.


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He seems to understand the word "tsunami"!


His fault? You lease a house to unruly tennants and they chop the walls
out to suit their furniture, hifi's and whatnot. Then blame the
architect for the roof falling in on them when they had all their
friends around partying?

I was posting something to the effect that people should be on the
lookout some 2 weeks prior to the event. Perhaps if I had been a little
more industrious and more open to amelioration?

Fckem.


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