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![]() "John Hall" wrote in message ... In article , Col writes: I recall asking a similar question some time back and was told that the early readings were derived from a tiny handful of sites (hence their accuracy to only 1 degree) I think that you're thinking of the claimed accuracy of the earliest CET monthly averages to 1F, which equates to roughly 0.5C. In the very earliest years (to 1670) the figures are given in whole degrees only so surely that is an accuracy to 1 degree? From 1671 to 1698 it is half a degree and thereafter 0.1C. Col -- Bolton, Lancashire. 160m asl. http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co....rPictures.html |
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Col writes: "John Hall" wrote in message ... In article , Col writes: I recall asking a similar question some time back and was told that the early readings were derived from a tiny handful of sites (hence their accuracy to only 1 degree) I think that you're thinking of the claimed accuracy of the earliest CET monthly averages to 1F, which equates to roughly 0.5C. In the very earliest years (to 1670) the figures are given in whole degrees only so surely that is an accuracy to 1 degree? From 1671 to 1698 it is half a degree and thereafter 0.1C. You're probably right. My memory was that the whole series - including the extension back in time as far as 1659 - was originally produced by Manley using degrees Fahrenheit, but I may well have been wrong in that and or the precision may have subsequently been revised. -- John Hall "One half of the world cannot understand the pleasures of the other." From "Emma" by Jane Austen (1775-1817) |
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A bit more on low maxima in London. According to this page on Trevor
Harley's excellent website: http://www.personal.dundee.ac.uk/~ta...in_january.htm the three coldest January days in London on record are, in chronological order: 8th January, 1841: max of -8.3C at Greenwich 4th January, 1867: max of -8.3C at Camden Square 12th January, 1987: max of "reportedly" -9.1C at Warlingham and -8C "across large parts of the south" Too much notice should not be taken of the tenths of a degree in the first two values, as I suspect that they are converted from values originally read to the nearest whole degree Fahrenheit. Obviously 1740 is likely to have produced at least one colder day, as may some other early winters, but accurate instrumental readings are lacking. -- John Hall "One half of the world cannot understand the pleasures of the other." From "Emma" by Jane Austen (1775-1817) |
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John Hall writes: the three coldest January days in London on record are, in chronological order: 8th January, 1841: max of -8.3C at Greenwich 4th January, 1867: max of -8.3C at Camden Square 12th January, 1987: max of "reportedly" -9.1C at Warlingham and -8C "across large parts of the south" One other point. The two 19th century figures won't have been obtained from a thermometer in a Stevenson Screen. However if, as is likely, they occurred in a strong easterly wind, then I wouldn't expect that to make any significant difference. (Not that I'm an expert.) -- John Hall "Sir, I have found you an argument; but I am not obliged to find you an understanding." Dr Samuel Johnson (1709-1784) |
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