"Damien" wrote in message
oups.com...
So perhaps winter is yet dead

Personally I had written off this weekend's expected cold weather as
just another 2 day wonder before zonality set in, as has happened
with
northerly outbreaks so many times in recent years.

Looking forward to interesting times

While those last two statements are indeed directly contradictory, you
are, in general, spot on.

No they are not.
Read the first one again. I said that I *had* written off the cold spell
as another 2 day wonder, however now I think it may last longer.

How on Earth can you talk of possibly "Looking forward to interesting
times " while admitting that the so-called "winer" of 2005 IS
actually dead and buried?

Even if I believed it was going to last just two days, that still wouldn't
mean that I had written off winter as a whole.

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.
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In message . com,
Damien writes
Paul, was it you or Will who, I heard, forecast a cold winter in autumn
1998, for the coming winter of 1999, or was it someone else?

Just something that - seeing as he is right now most probably reading
this - Gavin Partridge said lately over on The Weather Outlook
discussion forum.

D.

D. Will and I did try to combine one winter about then - the result was
disappointing for both of us so we gave up that line of approach.
Cheers
Paul
--
'Wisest are they that know they do not know.' Socrates.
Paul Bartlett FRMetS

The link up later in the week with the Russian/Siberian High seems to
have diminished. It is this that would give me some confidence that a
more sustained cold spell was upon us. I see nothing much coming from
the current Northerly/Northeasterly in the next couple of days. I hope
some of the models change again, it's not looking very promising to me
:-(


Keith (Southend)

***********************
Weather Home & Abroad
http://www.southendweather.net


On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:04:58 -0000, "Will Hand"
wrote:


"Pete B" wrote in message
...
"Will Hand" wrote in message
...
snip
I had noticed the interesting trend in the ECMWF charts this morning but my
enthusiasm for the weather that may be associated with such developments was
tempered somewhat by the observation he

http://grads.iges.org/pix/temp4.html

In spite of the very favourable surface chart appearance, there does not
seem to be a great mass of very cold air over the near continent at any
stage, assuming of course that these charts shown in the above link are in
any way reliable.

I still await real time developments with interest though.

--
Pete

Which is why I didn't go OTT and go for widespread snow under deep cold pools
etc.
Not that they can entirely ruled out of course !

Will.

"Keith (Southend)" wrote in message
...
The link up later in the week with the Russian/Siberian High seems to
have diminished. It is this that would give me some confidence that a
more sustained cold spell was upon us. I see nothing much coming from
the current Northerly/Northeasterly in the next couple of days. I hope
some of the models change again, it's not looking very promising to me
:-(

Yes, this T+132 Met Office chart shows that to be tantalisingly close.

http://imkpc3.physik.uni-karlsruhe.d...cs/brack4a.gif

I wonder how much this will have changed when it is updated.

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co....rPictures.html

Col wrote:
"Keith (Southend)" wrote in message
...

The link up later in the week with the Russian/Siberian High seems to
have diminished. It is this that would give me some confidence that a
more sustained cold spell was upon us. I see nothing much coming from
the current Northerly/Northeasterly in the next couple of days. I hope
some of the models change again, it's not looking very promising to me
:-(


Yes, this T+132 Met Office chart shows that to be tantalisingly close.

http://imkpc3.physik.uni-karlsruhe.d...cs/brack4a.gif

I wonder how much this will have changed when it is updated.

Col

Or even http://imkpc3.physik.uni-karlsruhe.d...ics/brack4.gif

Joe