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Chris Hogg wrote:
I have a Davis automatic weather station with solar radiation sensor. The latter records in watts/m^2, and, quite reasonably, records levels of solar radiation even on dull days. But it doesn't tell me the traditional hours of sunshine, as such. Is there a threshold value of w/m^2 that is generally accepted as being equivalent to actual sunshine, either rule of thumb or scientific? Put another way, what's the minimum strength of solar radiation in w/m^2 required to burn the strip of paper in a glass sphere type of sunshine recorder? A sunshine recorder and a solar radiation sensor are different instruments. The solar radiation sensor on your Davis is measuring the total solar radiation from the whole sky whereas a traditional sunshine recorder only measures the light from the sun (as it's focused or tracked). There are some interesting letters in the last couple of issues of the COL bulletin - see http://www.met.rdg.ac.uk/~brugge/col.html Jonathan Canterbury |
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You have to distinguish clearly between sunshine intensity measured as
direct irradiance and as global irradiance. Direct irradiance involves, most simply, a sensor pointing directly at the sun and tracking it across the sky through the day. This requires an expensive instrument, although there are more cost-effective methods of simulating the measurement of direct irradiance eg by using two fixed sensors, one fitted with shade bands, but this is still not simple or cheap. But if you can measure direct irradiance then any value 120W/sqm (IIRC) qualifies as bright sunshine. The solar sensors of more affordable stations such as the Davis VP/VP2 measure global or whole-sky irradiance. There is then no simple threshold value that can be used to enumerate bright sunshine hours. However, it is possible to estimate the predicted global irradiance for a given location and a given date/time given clear-sky conditions. Then by comparing the actual and predicted values and defining a % value above which you consider the sun to be shining brightly then you can certainly estimate bright sunshine hours. It takes some analysis to get a good value for the % cutoff. But the results over a month can agree well with CS data, though totals on any given day have a larger error. John Dann www.weatherstations.co.uk |
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In message , John Dann
writes However, it is possible to estimate the predicted global irradiance for a given location and a given date/time given clear-sky conditions. Then by comparing the actual and predicted values and defining a % value above which you consider the sun to be shining brightly then you can certainly estimate bright sunshine hours. It takes some analysis to get a good value for the % cutoff. But the results over a month can agree well with CS data, though totals on any given day have a larger error. John Dann www.weatherstations.co.uk I been thinking about doing just that. I already have spreadsheet that gives the maximum solar radiation curve throughout the day, next step was to load in the data from Weatherlink and sum up the times for which the measured level exceeds some percentage of the maximum. About 70% would be my starting threshold I think, but could be tweaked from there. Then expand to a month and generate a nice monthly summary page. I already post the NOAA summaries on my site, but would rather have a slightly different data set, including an approximate measure of sun-hours. -- steve Weather at Scotton, Knaresborough, North Yorkshire http://www.knaresboroughweather.co.uk |
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On Fri, 5 May 2006 22:36:32 +0100, Steven Briggs
wrote: I been thinking about doing just that. As you might have guessed, I have some standalone software that does just that and computes a range of other monthly summary values from the Weatherlink archive files. The calculation of bright sunshine values was calibrated against several months' worth of CS data and there's also proving to be respectable agreement with the Instromet sunshine recorder. The software is almost ready for general use - I just need to find time to tidy up some loose ends. John Dann www.weatherstations.co.uk |
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