In article .com,
Stephen Burt writes:
Good idea. I had no idea it was still in print after more than 20 years
... !


I don't think it's still in print, but can be obtained from second-hand
book dealers, for whom Amazon act as a go-between. I've recently bought
both "The English Climate" by CEP Brooks and "A Century of London
Weather" by a similar method.
--
John Hall
"Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people
from coughing."
Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83)

In article .com,
Stephen Burt writes:
Gordon Manley: 3 Jan 1902 - 29 Jan 1980.

There's a full account of his life and career given in The Climatic
Scene, Ed. Tooley, M J and Sheail, G M - published by Allen & Unwin in
1985. You should be able to get a copy either from the National
Meteorological Library or your own local library who can request it
from the British Library.

I was fortunate enough to meet Gordon Manley briefly at a RMetS meeting
in the mid 1970s, and I still have several letters I exchanged with
him.

My article for Wikipedia is now up, and can be found at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Manley

I would like to thank Dennis Wheeler of Durham University for his help.
He kindly sent me a photocopy of the relevant chapter from the
above-mentioned book and reviewed the draft of my article.
--
John Hall

"The covers of this book are too far apart."
Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914)

My article for Wikipedia is now up, and can be found at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Manley


Nicely written, well done: fills an important gap.

Stephen

In article .com,
Stephen Burt writes:

My article for Wikipedia is now up, and can be found at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Manley


Nicely written, well done: fills an important gap.

Thanks, Stephen.
--

John Hall

"The covers of this book are too far apart."
Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914)

John Hall wrote:
In article .com,
Stephen Burt writes:

My article for Wikipedia is now up, and can be found at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Manley


Nicely written, well done: fills an important gap.

Thanks, Stephen.
--

John Hall

Nb the 1953 and 1974 papers are available from the RMS site-
http://www.rmets.org/publication/classics/index.php
perhaps a sentence or two might be added on his work on the 'Helm
wind', there was a New Scientist article a little while ago.
Also, there appears to be no page for the late Frank Ludlam,
considering how influential he has been .....................,
regards,
David

In article .com,
Waghorn writes:
Nb the 1953 and 1974 papers are available from the RMS site-
http://www.rmets.org/publication/classics/index.php

Thanks. I wasn't aware of that.

perhaps a sentence or two might be added on his work on the 'Helm
wind', there was a New Scientist article a little while ago.

Good point.

I'll see what I can do on both counts. Alternatively, please feel free
to edit the entry yourself. The great advantage (as well as potentially
a great danger) of Wikipedia is that anyone can edit articles.

Also, there appears to be no page for the late Frank Ludlam,
considering how influential he has been .....................,

That I shall definitely leave for someone else to do. Someone has
written a short piece on Hubert Lamb (which could do with expanding),
but apart from that the Wiki coverage of British climatologists seems to
be pretty much non-existent.
--
John Hall

"The covers of this book are too far apart."
Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914)

John Hall wrote:

Nb the 1953 and 1974 papers are available from the RMS site-
http://www.rmets.org/publication/classics/index.php

Thanks. I wasn't aware of that.

perhaps a sentence or two might be added on his work on the 'Helm
wind', there was a New Scientist article a little while ago.

Good point.

I'll see what I can do on both counts. Alternatively, please feel free
to edit the entry yourself. The great advantage (as well as potentially
a great danger) of Wikipedia is that anyone can edit articles.

Also, there appears to be no page for the late Frank Ludlam,
considering how influential he has been .....................,

That I shall definitely leave for someone else to do. Someone has
written a short piece on Hubert Lamb (which could do with expanding),
but apart from that the Wiki coverage of British climatologists seems to
be pretty much non-existent.
--
John Hall

The reference is 'When the helm wind blows', New scientist, 14 May
2005, p50-51.
(I can scan it if you like)
I'm a bit short on spare time ATM, but I'spose as well as Ludlam one
should have Sawyer and Sutcliffe as well, on the dynamicists side from
the C20. I think R S Scorer is still alive.
I'm slightly dubious about including the living
regards,
David



"The covers of this book are too far apart."
Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914)

In article .com,
Waghorn writes:

perhaps a sentence or two might be added on his work on the 'Helm
wind', there was a New Scientist article a little while ago.

The reference is 'When the helm wind blows', New scientist, 14 May
2005, p50-51.
(I can scan it if you like)

Thanks. But for just a sentence or two, that might be a disproportionate
amount of trouble for you to go to. If you'd rather not edit the Manley
entry yourself, then perhaps you could email me a sentence or two that
you'd like included? (The Reply-To address on this news article will
work.)

Alternatively perhaps something along the following lines might be
appropriate: "He carried out valuable research into the 'Helm Wind', a
north-east wind that the local topology causes to blow down the
south-west slope of Crossfell in the Pennines with unusual strength."
(I've largely lifted that description from p85 of "Climate and the
British Scene".) I imagine that this would best be inserted after the
description of the Dun Fell observations.

I'm a bit short on spare time ATM, but I'spose as well as Ludlam one
should have Sawyer and Sutcliffe as well, on the dynamicists side from
the C20. I think R S Scorer is still alive.
I'm slightly dubious about including the living

OTOH if they are truly distinguished I feel that they deserve an entry.

My comment about the lack of entries was based on listing entries where
the Category "climatologists" had been specified. There could be a few
more entries where it hasn't been.
--
John Hall

"The covers of this book are too far apart."
Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914)

John Hall wrote:

Thanks. But for just a sentence or two, that might be a disproportionate
amount of trouble for you to go to. If you'd rather not edit the Manley
entry yourself, then perhaps you could email me a sentence or two that
you'd like included? (The Reply-To address on this news article will
work.)

Alternatively perhaps something along the following lines might be
appropriate: "He carried out valuable research into the 'Helm Wind', a
north-east wind that the local topology causes to blow down the
south-west slope of Crossfell in the Pennines with unusual strength."
(I've largely lifted that description from p85 of "Climate and the
British Scene".) I imagine that this would best be inserted after the
description of the Dun Fell observations.
Ha, Ha,
I'm making work all round ;-).
how about-
"From 1937 he carried out...
..Manley interpreted the phenomenon in hydrodynamic terms as a 'standing
wave' and 'rotor', a model confirmed in 1939 by glider flights"
I think the hydrodynamic model from observations bit is important. BTW
somebody ought to write an article/book on the use of glider
observations in meteorology in the 30s and 50s-while I'm dishing out
tasks........................
;-)
The scans wld n't take long if you'd like a copy.

Thanks,
David

In article .com,
Waghorn writes:
I'm making work all round ;-).



how about-
"From 1937 he carried out...
.Manley interpreted the phenomenon in hydrodynamic terms as a 'standing
wave' and 'rotor', a model confirmed in 1939 by glider flights"

OK, I'll put that in.

I think the hydrodynamic model from observations bit is important. BTW
somebody ought to write an article/book on the use of glider
observations in meteorology in the 30s and 50s-while I'm dishing out
tasks........................
;-)
The scans wld n't take long if you'd like a copy.

Thanks for the offer, but I confess that hydrodynamical processes aren't
something that I have much understanding of or interest in.
--
John Hall

"The covers of this book are too far apart."
Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914)