2nd day in a row with 26C in Mid Devon, can anyone beat this?

Summer has finally arrived.

Looking promising for thundery activity from the south next weekend.

Warren

Warren Radmore wrote:
2nd day in a row with 26C in Mid Devon, can anyone beat this?



Hi there Warren

IMHO and Judging by MO reports, your thermometer screen is cooking your
maximum tempeartures!

Besides which, observing the weather and recording meteorological
parameters is not about beating each other, otherwise we end up with
another Barbourne, or Oxford (re; yesterday's supposed 16 hours of
sunshine!).

Nevertheless, glad you enjoyed the warmth of the south -west - we
grockles are envious of your climate doem there :-))

Up here in Warwick, it was another very pleasant day even with the late
afternoon thunder!

Steve J

"Steve J, BWS" wrote in message
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Warren Radmore wrote:
2nd day in a row with 26C in Mid Devon, can anyone beat this?



Hi there Warren

IMHO and Judging by MO reports, your thermometer screen is cooking your
maximum tempeartures!

Besides which, observing the weather and recording meteorological
parameters is not about beating each other, otherwise we end up with
another Barbourne, or Oxford (re; yesterday's supposed 16 hours of
sunshine!).

Nevertheless, glad you enjoyed the warmth of the south -west - we
grockles are envious of your climate doem there :-))

Up here in Warwick, it was another very pleasant day even with the late
afternoon thunder!

Steve J

Hi .I am expecting visitors down to the Bournemouth arrear next w/e ,
have you any idea what the weather will be Thurs onwards.I do not find the
local bbc webpage forecast reliable, it is often different from the BBC
south T/V forecast and the ITV version.why are they so different? I found
this newsgroup recently I am not into the tecno stuff but still find it all
interesting to look at.thank you. cas

IMHO and Judging by MO reports, your thermometer screen is cooking your
maximum tempeartures!

Steve,
Exeter Airport recorded 25C today. I recorded 25.9C at my location until the
sea breeze cooled things off a degree or two. Exeter Airport is in a rather
exposed location slightly nearer to the sea than here, I suspect that 26C in
mid-Devon would be expected.

As for yesterday, I recorded 27.1C. The air was exceptionally calm and no
sea breeze occurred all day which is why it went that high. I noted that
other areas of the country were much cooler, which I admit is unusual as we
normally don't get the highest temperatures in the country here during the
early summer.
________________
Nick G
Otter Valley
Nr Sidmouth, Devon
70 m amsl

"Steve J, BWS" wrote in message
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Warren Radmore wrote:
2nd day in a row with 26C in Mid Devon, can anyone beat this?



Hi there Warren


Besides which, observing the weather and recording meteorological
parameters is not about beating each other, otherwise we end up with
another Barbourne, or Oxford (re; yesterday's supposed 16 hours of
sunshine!).

Nevertheless, glad you enjoyed the warmth of the south -west - we
grockles are envious of your climate doem there :-))

Up here in Warwick, it was another very pleasant day even with the late
afternoon thunder!

Steve J

Steve J, BWS wrote:

Warren Radmore wrote:
2nd day in a row with 26C in Mid Devon, can anyone beat this?



Hi there Warren

IMHO and Judging by MO reports, your thermometer screen is cooking your
maximum tempeartures!

Steve J

Seems quite possible to me. Reached 24.6 in Penzance, looked like it
was going to be warmer, then some high cloud arrived.

The trouble is there are so few MetO stations, and they tend to not be
typical, many are windblown airports. In West Cornwall we have Culdrose
& ST Mawgan, both very exposed clifftops where the weather can bear
little resemblence to that a 2 miles away at sea level. Yesterday
Culdrose (the nearest to me) was 2 - 3 degrees lower, which is what I'd
expect.

As far as I am aware there is only LOW LEVEL MetO station on the 70 or
so miles of the south coast of Cornwall, and I'm not aware of any on
the north coast, which is even longer. One thing you can be sure of,
there are going to be many places warmer than the warmest MetO station.

Graham
Penzance

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The trouble is there are so few MetO stations, and they tend to not be
typical,

The Penzance heliport METAR should be fairly typical of the conditions in
Penzance.
EGHK 050750Z 06003KT CAVOK 18/12 Q1025 NOSIG

Jon.

Jon O'Rourke wrote:

"Graham Easterling" wrote in message
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The trouble is there are so few MetO stations, and they tend to not be
typical,

The Penzance heliport METAR should be fairly typical of the conditions in
Penzance.
EGHK 050750Z 06003KT CAVOK 18/12 Q1025 NOSIG

Jon.

True, but details don't appear on any of the lists (CEEFAX, MetO & BBC
websites etc.) that most people refer to. Also there are no reports
whenever the heliport is shut, which includes all day Sunday.

Still, yet another fantastic day down here, currently (14:00) 23C.
Absolutely no surf, though at least some is forecast in ain 3 or 4
days.

For anyone interested in current/forecast weather/sea conditions in
Cornwall,
http://www.destination-cornwall.co.u...n-Cornwall.htm is
a good place to start.

Graham
Penzance

Steve J, BWS wrote:

Hi there Warren


Besides which, observing the weather and recording meteorological
parameters is not about beating each other, otherwise we end up with
another Barbourne, or Oxford (re; yesterday's supposed 16 hours of
sunshine!).


Hi, Steve,

I certainly don't want to get into a debate about which part of the
country is best, imho everywhere has its merits and nowhere is perfect.

What I am questioning is why 16hr sunshine should be so suspect in
June? I have recorded 16 hours in July and am certainly not a record
seeker (I couldn't really be in Copley, could I). I expect, with
completely cloudless skies, I could see easily more than 16hr in June.

Screen min 2.9C grass -1.4C to add to the heated debate!

Best wishes,
Ken
Copley 253metres asl, nr Barnard Castle, County Durham
http://copley.mysite.orange.co.uk

I certainly don't want to get into a debate about which part of the
country is best, imho everywhere has its merits and nowhere is perfect.

What I am questioning is why 16hr sunshine should be so suspect in
June? I have recorded 16 hours in July and am certainly not a record
seeker (I couldn't really be in Copley, could I). I expect, with
completely cloudless skies, I could see easily more than 16hr in June.

Hi Ken

Just that Oxford is "notorious" for over-estimating its sunshine
figures - ISTR a thread to this effect last year when they claimed 16
hours at this time of year.

On the day they recorded 16 hours, we in Coventry only managed 14.7
hours with no cloud in the sky from dawn to dusk. Our record dating
back to 1894 is 15.9 hours at the Solstice, so 16 hours in Oxford in
early June is suspicious IMHO.

As for Copley, 16 hours should be possible in early July with your
northerly latitude, indeed the Uk record is well beyond that in
Scotland.

I'm sorry I picked up Warren, but I dislike competition between
stations for records because of the Barbourne effect - I know that
Devon is the place to be for sun and warmth, whereas Copley is renowned
for a somewhat cooler regime:-))

I notice the Met Office had Sunday's warmest place at Boscombe, and
below 26C. However Graham & Jon's point is valid in that the warmest
palce might not have a Met Office station locally.

Incidentally, where is the Oxford site? I presume this is not Benson -
equally of notorious fame:-))

Always good to debate

Steve

In article .com,
"Steve J, BWS" writes:
Incidentally, where is the Oxford site? I presume this is not Benson -
equally of notorious fame:-))

I would assume that it's the famous Radcliffe Observatory site, which I
believe has a record going back as far as 1815.

http://www.green.ox.ac.uk/index.php?id=75

That page includes: "In 1935, when the Observatory ceased to function as
such, the site became the Radcliffe Meteorological Station, and
observations have continued to be made from instruments at ground level
on the north lawn."
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