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I am still trying to digest the latest nonsense put out by our ever
watchfull BBC.
The programme in question was yesterdays Country file largly given over to
the drought in Southeast England,and how we are all doomed by the ongoing
GW.
Various scenarios were discussed as to what could be done about it including
piping water across country from the very wet parts of our Island,but the
very ernest enviromentalist said it would be far too expensive at maybe one
million pounds per kilometre. Do what !.that sum represents about one weeks
costs in Iraq,and probably the monthly salary bill for ChelseFC.
Have they all gone totally barmy,and money obsessed ?,we have a large crisis
looming in the Southeast,which according to the experts could be cured with
a few years effort and the water companies/government dosh.
Perhaps we should save our money though for a penny off income tax,or a
couple of quid a week for the poor old age pensioners ,that would probably
be much more satisfying that solving a crisis for the next government.
The British Isles is sloshing with water most of the year ,so lets get it to
the parts who need it with a water grid..Isambard Kingdom Brunel could have
done it,or.
bring back Winstone Churchill I say !

RonB

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Wasn't there a plan years ago for a water grid using existing rivers,
canals and other watercourses some years back?? That would be a less
expensive means of getting water from the north to the drought ridden
globally warmed SouthEastern UK scorched earth. Trouble is the water
companies aren't ours any more....

Ron Button wrote:
I am still trying to digest the latest nonsense put out by our ever
watchfull BBC.
bring back Winstone Churchill I say !

RonB

PS OK you experts ,,shoot me down




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"Les Crossan" wrote in
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Wasn't there a plan years ago for a water grid using existing rivers,
canals and other watercourses some years back?? That would be a less
expensive means of getting water from the north to the drought ridden
globally warmed SouthEastern UK scorched earth. Trouble is the water
companies aren't ours any more....


Aye there was. In the dim and distant aeons of time, when Keilder Water was
in the process of being made, I was one of a group of students being shown
around. We were told how Keilder Water, Tyne & Tees were to be connected
with tunnels to provide a regional water grid, with a view to this being
part of a national water grid over time.


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How come Global Warming only seems to have struck the South East of England?
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How come Global Warming only seems to have struck the South
East of England?


It's a well-known fact that nothing ever happens anywhere else.

Anne




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Ron

Totally with you on this one!!

Rant

The last b-i-g crisis happened 30 years ago. I was but a kid at the time
but I remember discussions about a national water grid.

OK, once in 30 years probably doesn't warrant spending millions or
billions - or does it?

If we have a dry winter again, I can see stand pipes in the streets next
year (or maybe later this year) and possibly even worse, with non
essential supplies being turned off etc.

Alarmist maybe but what will happen if we don't get a couple of years of
normal rainfall to fill up the aquifers?

Could we see mass migration away from the South - The area, after all,
that generates the vast majority of the countries wealth now that the
manufacturing industries have been systematically dismantled.

A serious lack of water for the 20 odd million who live in London and
the South East must be addressed and I can't see any other way than to
build a water grid.

The only thing stopping it is that, as others have pointed out, the
utilities are no longer owned by us. I believe most of them are in
French hands!

So Ron, shall we start a campaign to get the army out of Iraq and
digging tunnels to lay pipes. I'll see you in Trafalgar Square next
Saturday ;-)

/Rant

Cheers

Neil

Ron Button wrote:
I am still trying to digest the latest nonsense put out by our ever
watchfull BBC.
The programme in question was yesterdays Country file largly given over to
the drought in Southeast England,and how we are all doomed by the ongoing
GW.
Various scenarios were discussed as to what could be done about it including
piping water across country from the very wet parts of our Island,but the
very ernest enviromentalist said it would be far too expensive at maybe one
million pounds per kilometre. Do what !.that sum represents about one weeks
costs in Iraq,and probably the monthly salary bill for ChelseFC.
Have they all gone totally barmy,and money obsessed ?,we have a large crisis
looming in the Southeast,which according to the experts could be cured with
a few years effort and the water companies/government dosh.
Perhaps we should save our money though for a penny off income tax,or a
couple of quid a week for the poor old age pensioners ,that would probably
be much more satisfying that solving a crisis for the next government.
The British Isles is sloshing with water most of the year ,so lets get it to
the parts who need it with a water grid..Isambard Kingdom Brunel could have
done it,or.
bring back Winstone Churchill I say !

RonB

PS OK you experts ,,shoot me down


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Of course London itself already has a grid. Few seem aware of the London
ring main, completed only a few years ago which allows water from different
sources around the London area to be piped to where it's most needed.

Dave
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Ron

Totally with you on this one!!

Rant

The last b-i-g crisis happened 30 years ago. I was but a kid at the time
but I remember discussions about a national water grid.

OK, once in 30 years probably doesn't warrant spending millions or
billions - or does it?

If we have a dry winter again, I can see stand pipes in the streets next
year (or maybe later this year) and possibly even worse, with non
essential supplies being turned off etc.

Alarmist maybe but what will happen if we don't get a couple of years of
normal rainfall to fill up the aquifers?

Could we see mass migration away from the South - The area, after all,
that generates the vast majority of the countries wealth now that the
manufacturing industries have been systematically dismantled.

A serious lack of water for the 20 odd million who live in London and
the South East must be addressed and I can't see any other way than to
build a water grid.

The only thing stopping it is that, as others have pointed out, the
utilities are no longer owned by us. I believe most of them are in
French hands!

So Ron, shall we start a campaign to get the army out of Iraq and
digging tunnels to lay pipes. I'll see you in Trafalgar Square next
Saturday ;-)

/Rant

Cheers

Neil

Ron Button wrote:
I am still trying to digest the latest nonsense put out by our ever
watchfull BBC.
The programme in question was yesterdays Country file largly given over

to
the drought in Southeast England,and how we are all doomed by the

ongoing
GW.
Various scenarios were discussed as to what could be done about it

including
piping water across country from the very wet parts of our Island,but

the
very ernest enviromentalist said it would be far too expensive at maybe

one
million pounds per kilometre. Do what !.that sum represents about one

weeks
costs in Iraq,and probably the monthly salary bill for ChelseFC.
Have they all gone totally barmy,and money obsessed ?,we have a large

crisis
looming in the Southeast,which according to the experts could be cured

with
a few years effort and the water companies/government dosh.
Perhaps we should save our money though for a penny off income tax,or a
couple of quid a week for the poor old age pensioners ,that would

probably
be much more satisfying that solving a crisis for the next government.
The British Isles is sloshing with water most of the year ,so lets get

it to
the parts who need it with a water grid..Isambard Kingdom Brunel could

have
done it,or.
bring back Winstone Churchill I say !

RonB

PS OK you experts ,,shoot me down




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"Ron Button" wrote in message
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I am still trying to digest the latest nonsense put out by our ever
watchfull BBC.
The programme in question was yesterdays Country file largly given over to
the drought in Southeast England,and how we are all doomed by the ongoing
GW.
Various scenarios were discussed as to what could be done about it including
piping water across country from the very wet parts of our Island,but the
very ernest enviromentalist said it would be far too expensive at maybe one
million pounds per kilometre. Do what !.that sum represents about one weeks
costs in Iraq,and probably the monthly salary bill for ChelseFC.
Have they all gone totally barmy,and money obsessed ?,we have a large crisis
looming in the Southeast,which according to the experts could be cured with
a few years effort and the water companies/government dosh.
Perhaps we should save our money though for a penny off income tax,or a
couple of quid a week for the poor old age pensioners ,that would probably
be much more satisfying that solving a crisis for the next government.
The British Isles is sloshing with water most of the year ,so lets get it to
the parts who need it with a water grid..Isambard Kingdom Brunel could have
done it,or.
bring back Winstone Churchill I say !


A million pounds per kilometre, that's a thousand pounds per *metre*.
Do they intend making the pipes out of gold bullion?
OK, I know you've got pumping costs as well but even so, I don't see
why it should be so expensive. After all, water companies are quite able
to pump water from reservoirs up to 100 miles away into our homes
without excessive costs so why not from up north to down south?
And they used to say motorways cost a million quid a mile but we've
got enough of those....

Col
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I am still trying to digest the latest nonsense put out by our ever
watchfull BBC.
The programme in question was yesterdays Country file largly given over to
the drought in Southeast England,and how we are all doomed by the ongoing
GW.
Various scenarios were discussed as to what could be done about it
including piping water across country from the very wet parts of our
Island,but the very ernest enviromentalist said it would be far too
expensive at maybe one million pounds per kilometre. Do what !.that sum
represents about one weeks costs in Iraq,and probably the monthly salary
bill for ChelseFC.
Have they all gone totally barmy,and money obsessed ?,we have a large
crisis looming in the Southeast,which according to the experts could be
cured with a few years effort and the water companies/government dosh.
Perhaps we should save our money though for a penny off income tax,or a
couple of quid a week for the poor old age pensioners ,that would probably
be much more satisfying that solving a crisis for the next government.
The British Isles is sloshing with water most of the year ,so lets get it
to the parts who need it with a water grid..Isambard Kingdom Brunel could
have done it,or.
bring back Winstone Churchill I say !


The Ely Ouse to Essex transfer already helps out eastern Essex
http://www.eswater.co.uk/domestic/abbely.asp
but not here (Three Valleys)
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"Ron Button" wrote in message
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I am still trying to digest the latest nonsense put out by our ever
watchfull BBC.
The programme in question was yesterdays Country file largly given over to
the drought in Southeast England,and how we are all doomed by the ongoing
GW.
Various scenarios were discussed as to what could be done about it
including piping water across country from the very wet parts of our
Island,but the very ernest enviromentalist said it would be far too
expensive at maybe one million pounds per kilometre. Do what !.that sum
represents about one weeks costs in Iraq,and probably the monthly salary
bill for ChelseFC.
Have they all gone totally barmy,and money obsessed ?,we have a large
crisis looming in the Southeast,which according to the experts could be
cured with a few years effort and the water companies/government dosh.
Perhaps we should save our money though for a penny off income tax,or a
couple of quid a week for the poor old age pensioners ,that would probably
be much more satisfying that solving a crisis for the next government.
The British Isles is sloshing with water most of the year ,so lets get it
to the parts who need it with a water grid..Isambard Kingdom Brunel could
have done it,or.
bring back Winstone Churchill I say !

RonB

PS OK you experts ,,shoot me down

The BBC are mad Ron. Just the other day on their online news servicestheir
headline stated "another fatal stabbing ..but knife crime is down" So
where very important issues are at stake like violent crime they are in
total social marxist denial. Yet where GW is concerned they eargerly blame
it on the West, particularly America, at every conceivable occassion. They
are so biased now that they have become incapable of telling the truth.

Rant to one side, I have mentioned this before. I heard a suggestion that
the consumer draw the water from the pipe system via their own extraction
pumps. The theory being that the enormous pressure needed to maintain water
pressure could be alleviated, thus allowing huge reduction in leaks.

Mind you based on that proposal couldn't larger industrial pumps supply
areas in that same way?




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