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Quite a solid FEW of cloud to bring the vis down to 2400m..
EGKK 251850Z 01007KT 9999 FEW004 FEW040 01/00 Q1029 =
EGKK 251820Z 03007KT 2400 -SHSN FEW004 01/M00 Q1029 =

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Quite a solid FEW of cloud to bring the vis down to 2400m..
EGKK 251850Z 01007KT 9999 FEW004 FEW040 01/00 Q1029 =
EGKK 251820Z 03007KT 2400 -SHSN FEW004 01/M00 Q1029 =

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Hmmm, cloud amounts with precipitation is something we often comment on in
our duty shift reports.
Far too many FEWs for my liking, almost SAMOS like..

Interesting to see the snow shower though, the 00Z mesoscale did indicate a
few light ones over Gatwick way in the evening.

Jon.


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Quite a solid FEW of cloud to bring the vis down to 2400m..
EGKK 251850Z 01007KT 9999 FEW004 FEW040 01/00 Q1029 =
EGKK 251820Z 03007KT 2400 -SHSN FEW004 01/M00 Q1029 =

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I remember snow showers like that on Shetland, usually accompanied by a
30kt+ wind.

Graeme


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Quite a solid FEW of cloud to bring the vis down to 2400m..
EGKK 251850Z 01007KT 9999 FEW004 FEW040 01/00 Q1029 =
EGKK 251820Z 03007KT 2400 -SHSN FEW004 01/M00 Q1029 =

Phil



Hmmm, cloud amounts with precipitation is something we often comment on in
our duty shift reports.
Far too many FEWs for my liking, almost SAMOS like..


This happens more often than you might think, Jon. Yesterday at 0900z
there was a snow shower here with 3 OKTAS total cloud and at 1200z a
sleet shower with 2 OKTAs total cloud. The combined effects of
substantial vertical wind shear and the relatively slow rate of fall of
snow flakes can result in the shower cloud producing the snow
disappearing over the horizon before the last of the snow flakes reach
the ground. Mind you, I'm not saying that is what was happening at EGKK
:-)

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This happens more often than you might think, Jon. Yesterday at 0900z
there was a snow shower here with 3 OKTAS total cloud and at 1200z a
sleet shower with 2 OKTAs total cloud. The combined effects of
substantial vertical wind shear and the relatively slow rate of fall of
snow flakes can result in the shower cloud producing the snow
disappearing over the horizon before the last of the snow flakes reach
the ground. Mind you, I'm not saying that is what was happening at EGKK
:-)


I'm not ruling it out but I think it's unlikely. I see it as a symptom of
the way the SAMOS system deduces cloud amounts from the data presented to it
by the laser cloud base recorder. There was an interesting example of this
last month at Luton when 8/8 AS/CI was present overhead and yet the METARs
were reporting sky clear.

There's also the small matter of prevailing/directional visibility which is
reported about as often as snow flakes over North Africa :-)

Jon.




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"Jon O'Rourke" wrote in message
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There's also the small matter of prevailing/directional visibility which

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reported about as often as snow flakes over North Africa :-)


...and then 3 prevailing vis reports come along at once, although I'm not
sure the way Jersey have done it is entirely correct :-

EGJJ 251720Z 03017KT 6000 5000NW -SHRA SCT008 FEW012CB BKN018 03/00 Q1027
TEMPO 9999
EGJJ 251650Z 03019KT 5000 4000N -SHGS FEW008 BKN012CB 03/M00 Q1027 TEMPO
9999
EGJJ 251620Z 03015G33KT 9999 9000N -SHRA SCT018CB BKN025 04/01 Q1027 TEMPO
5000 SHGS

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"Jon O'Rourke" wrote in message
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There's also the small matter of prevailing/directional visibility which
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reported about as often as snow flakes over North Africa :-)

Jon.


Quite common then Jon:
DAAE 260600Z 28008KT 3000 TSSN SCT016 FEW026CB BKN036 01/00 Q1007
DAAG 260600Z 22008KT 6000 TS SCT020TCU FEW030CB BKN040 02/01 Q1008
DAAJ NIL
DAAP 260600Z 19010KT 6000 SKC 10/M08 Q1009
DAAS 260600Z 30014KT 6000 SCT006 BKN026 M05/M06 Q1002
DAAT 260600Z 00000KT 5000 SKC 05/M10 Q1016
DAAV 260600Z 34005KT 5000 TSSN SCT013 FEW023CB BKN030 02/00 Q1005
DAAY 260600Z 30010KT 7000 FEW023 SCT030 M02/M08 Q1011
DABB 260600Z 25014KT 3000 -TSSN SCT010TCU FEW023CB BKN033 01/M01 Q1003
DABC 260600Z 24016KT 1500 -SN SCT006 FEW016CB OVC023 M03/M04 Q1001

:-)

Phil


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"Phil Layton" wrote in message
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"Jon O'Rourke" wrote in message
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There's also the small matter of prevailing/directional visibility which
is
reported about as often as snow flakes over North Africa :-)

Jon.


Quite common then Jon:
DAAE 260600Z 28008KT 3000 TSSN SCT016 FEW026CB BKN036 01/00 Q1007


Would you believe it :-) Noticed it's also snowing on Ibiza which must be
quite rare :-
LEIB 261530Z 36016G28KT 320V030 9999 -SN FEW020 SCT060 04/M05 Q1008 NOSIG =

Back closer to home more snow is forecast for Gatwick tonight :-

EGKK 261525Z 261601 01008KT 9999 SCT045
TEMPO 2201 5000 -SN BKN008 PROB40 TEMPO 2201 1000 SN BKN002=

Jon.







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