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"Col" wrote in message
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"Dave.C" wrote in message
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Well, as I alluded to last Friday the "first sustained rainfall for the
S.E"
didn't happen. But last night's News 24 forecast at 12.30 a.m showed rain
moving up from the South to cover Kent, Essex, Suffolk and South Norfolk.
"This may linger all morning in the S.E and be heavy at times the further
East you are before moving out in to the North Sea"
Didn't even get a mention this morning. There appears to have been some
rain
on the Kent coast so maybe it was the graphics that were skewed but the
commentary on them certainly gave an impression of widespread rain across
the region. Not bad for an eight hour forecast


A wave feature on the front was forecast that simply didn't materialise.
I believe these things are fickle and hence difficult to forecast.

Here, there wasn't as much rain as I thought. would happen yesterday
evening.
Iwasn't expecting anything particularly wet but I inspected the ground
this
morning
and the soil was still dry barely a cm below the surface.

Today things have returned to sometthing more akin to an 'average' summer
day,
if such a thing exists. Sunny start, the cloud building to give a brief
but
sharp shower
around midday, but some sun again in the afternoon.
Temp has reached 22.0C, cool by recent standards but still a little on the
warm
side on average.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl



Col, the Red Triangles of Doom have been in proliferation the last month,
either for heat of for severe rain and thunder storms. Now it has been hot
and it has rained, but as I said in a post several days ago (people have got
wise and now ignore me) SE England had it's own triangle amongst the dozens
that cried disaster.

'South-East England:
Heavy Rain (the most dangerous type-wet!)Valid from
17:00'

That was the 26th. Now of course there was some rain but if Noah had seen
that forecast he would have been down to Wickes and started on his boat! He
would have wasted his time though.

You say, in response to Dave C's "Appallingly forecast" thread

"I believe these things are fickle and hence difficult to forecast.

Well if that's the case, don't bleedin' forecast it then!

Nope my old axe that I grind is still this; the UKMO is increasingly being
tweaked as a propaganda tool. In response the Met hasn't lost the ability
to forecast but it has lost the ability to have the courage to give the
probability figures.
Now as Dave said it was a dismal without a 'bye your leave' mention from
UKMO, forecast.

However this unholy alliance with the NHS and PCT's (god I hate that
acronym) acts as a diversion from health issues such as MRSA
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4943496.stmMandeville

or the Stoke Mandeville hospital hygiene scandal

http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/stotty/

Sorry only source I can find at present, scroll down too the second article.

Is there a similar government warning system about these issues

There could be a level awareness system for hospitals along the lines of
this.

Alert Level 1- Long waits in A&E
Alert Level 2- take twenty pound to pay for parking and be aware that Car
could be towed away whilst visiting sick loved ones in hospital.

Alert Level 3 - Expect long delays for relatives and friends in phoning the
ward to find out how you are. This is due to an official secrets acts
screening process due to the very serious nature of confidentiality.
In addition if you try to circumvent this fatuous piece of NHS posturing
called confidentiality, by using the new telephone bedside service; please
ensure your home has enough collateral to cover the outrageous costs of the
calls..

Alert Level 4- Very long wait in casualty make sure you take sandwiches, and
you've told neighbours you may be gone for a while, and finally make a will.


Alert Level-4 High levels of MRSA plan for a one way trip only.


Now that's more like it.





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"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
...
"Col" wrote in message
...

"Dave.C" wrote in message
.uk...
Well, as I alluded to last Friday the "first sustained rainfall for the
S.E"
didn't happen. But last night's News 24 forecast at 12.30 a.m showed

rain
moving up from the South to cover Kent, Essex, Suffolk and South

Norfolk.
"This may linger all morning in the S.E and be heavy at times the

further
East you are before moving out in to the North Sea"
Didn't even get a mention this morning. There appears to have been some
rain
on the Kent coast so maybe it was the graphics that were skewed but the
commentary on them certainly gave an impression of widespread rain

across
the region. Not bad for an eight hour forecast


A wave feature on the front was forecast that simply didn't materialise.
I believe these things are fickle and hence difficult to forecast.

Here, there wasn't as much rain as I thought. would happen yesterday
evening.
Iwasn't expecting anything particularly wet but I inspected the ground
this
morning
and the soil was still dry barely a cm below the surface.

Today things have returned to sometthing more akin to an 'average'

summer
day,
if such a thing exists. Sunny start, the cloud building to give a brief
but
sharp shower
around midday, but some sun again in the afternoon.
Temp has reached 22.0C, cool by recent standards but still a little on

the
warm
side on average.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl



Col, the Red Triangles of Doom have been in proliferation the last month,
either for heat of for severe rain and thunder storms. Now it has been hot
and it has rained, but as I said in a post several days ago (people have

got
wise and now ignore me) SE England had it's own triangle amongst the

dozens
that cried disaster.

'South-East England:
Heavy Rain (the most dangerous type-wet!)Valid from
17:00'

That was the 26th. Now of course there was some rain but if Noah had seen
that forecast he would have been down to Wickes and started on his boat!

He
would have wasted his time though.

You say, in response to Dave C's "Appallingly forecast" thread

"I believe these things are fickle and hence difficult to forecast.

Well if that's the case, don't bleedin' forecast it then!

Nope my old axe that I grind is still this; the UKMO is increasingly being
tweaked as a propaganda tool. In response the Met hasn't lost the ability
to forecast but it has lost the ability to have the courage to give the
probability figures.
Now as Dave said it was a dismal without a 'bye your leave' mention from
UKMO, forecast.

However this unholy alliance with the NHS and PCT's (god I hate that
acronym) acts as a diversion from health issues such as MRSA
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4943496.stmMandeville

or the Stoke Mandeville hospital hygiene scandal

http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/stotty/

Sorry only source I can find at present, scroll down too the second

article.

Is there a similar government warning system about these issues

There could be a level awareness system for hospitals along the lines of
this.

Alert Level 1- Long waits in A&E
Alert Level 2- take twenty pound to pay for parking and be aware that Car
could be towed away whilst visiting sick loved ones in hospital.

Alert Level 3 - Expect long delays for relatives and friends in phoning

the
ward to find out how you are. This is due to an official secrets acts
screening process due to the very serious nature of confidentiality.
In addition if you try to circumvent this fatuous piece of NHS posturing
called confidentiality, by using the new telephone bedside service; please
ensure your home has enough collateral to cover the outrageous costs of

the
calls..

Alert Level 4- Very long wait in casualty make sure you take sandwiches,

and
you've told neighbours you may be gone for a while, and finally make a

will.


Alert Level-4 High levels of MRSA plan for a one way trip only.


Now that's more like it.

D'oh! Now look what I've gone and done. Sorry to awaken you from your

tranquility. ;-(

Dave




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"Dave.C" wrote in message
.uk...

"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
...
"Col" wrote in message
...

"Dave.C" wrote in message
.uk...
Well, as I alluded to last Friday the "first sustained rainfall for
the
S.E"
didn't happen. But last night's News 24 forecast at 12.30 a.m showed

rain
moving up from the South to cover Kent, Essex, Suffolk and South

Norfolk.
"This may linger all morning in the S.E and be heavy at times the

further
East you are before moving out in to the North Sea"
Didn't even get a mention this morning. There appears to have been
some
rain
on the Kent coast so maybe it was the graphics that were skewed but
the
commentary on them certainly gave an impression of widespread rain

across
the region. Not bad for an eight hour forecast

A wave feature on the front was forecast that simply didn't
materialise.
I believe these things are fickle and hence difficult to forecast.

Here, there wasn't as much rain as I thought. would happen yesterday
evening.
Iwasn't expecting anything particularly wet but I inspected the ground
this
morning
and the soil was still dry barely a cm below the surface.

Today things have returned to sometthing more akin to an 'average'

summer
day,
if such a thing exists. Sunny start, the cloud building to give a brief
but
sharp shower
around midday, but some sun again in the afternoon.
Temp has reached 22.0C, cool by recent standards but still a little on

the
warm
side on average.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl



Col, the Red Triangles of Doom have been in proliferation the last
month,
either for heat of for severe rain and thunder storms. Now it has been
hot
and it has rained, but as I said in a post several days ago (people have

got
wise and now ignore me) SE England had it's own triangle amongst the

dozens
that cried disaster.

'South-East England:
Heavy Rain (the most dangerous type-wet!)Valid from
17:00'

That was the 26th. Now of course there was some rain but if Noah had seen
that forecast he would have been down to Wickes and started on his boat!

He
would have wasted his time though.

You say, in response to Dave C's "Appallingly forecast" thread

"I believe these things are fickle and hence difficult to forecast.

Well if that's the case, don't bleedin' forecast it then!

Nope my old axe that I grind is still this; the UKMO is increasingly
being
tweaked as a propaganda tool. In response the Met hasn't lost the
ability
to forecast but it has lost the ability to have the courage to give the
probability figures.
Now as Dave said it was a dismal without a 'bye your leave' mention from
UKMO, forecast.

However this unholy alliance with the NHS and PCT's (god I hate that
acronym) acts as a diversion from health issues such as MRSA
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4943496.stmMandeville

or the Stoke Mandeville hospital hygiene scandal

http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/stotty/

Sorry only source I can find at present, scroll down too the second

article.

Is there a similar government warning system about these issues

There could be a level awareness system for hospitals along the lines of
this.

Alert Level 1- Long waits in A&E
Alert Level 2- take twenty pound to pay for parking and be aware that Car
could be towed away whilst visiting sick loved ones in hospital.

Alert Level 3 - Expect long delays for relatives and friends in phoning

the
ward to find out how you are. This is due to an official secrets acts
screening process due to the very serious nature of confidentiality.
In addition if you try to circumvent this fatuous piece of NHS posturing
called confidentiality, by using the new telephone bedside service;
please
ensure your home has enough collateral to cover the outrageous costs of

the
calls..

Alert Level 4- Very long wait in casualty make sure you take sandwiches,

and
you've told neighbours you may be gone for a while, and finally make a

will.


Alert Level-4 High levels of MRSA plan for a one way trip only.


Now that's more like it.

D'oh! Now look what I've gone and done. Sorry to awaken you from your

tranquility. ;-(

Dave



You can't be held personally to blame Dave, but maybe, just maybe; you
should have undertaken a risk assessment first?


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"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
...

"Dave.C" wrote in message
.uk...

"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
...
"Col" wrote in message
...

"Dave.C" wrote in message
.uk...
Well, as I alluded to last Friday the "first sustained rainfall for
the
S.E"
didn't happen. But last night's News 24 forecast at 12.30 a.m showed

rain
moving up from the South to cover Kent, Essex, Suffolk and South

Norfolk.
"This may linger all morning in the S.E and be heavy at times the

further
East you are before moving out in to the North Sea"
Didn't even get a mention this morning. There appears to have been
some
rain
on the Kent coast so maybe it was the graphics that were skewed but
the
commentary on them certainly gave an impression of widespread rain

across
the region. Not bad for an eight hour forecast

A wave feature on the front was forecast that simply didn't
materialise.
I believe these things are fickle and hence difficult to forecast.

Here, there wasn't as much rain as I thought. would happen yesterday
evening.
Iwasn't expecting anything particularly wet but I inspected the

ground
this
morning
and the soil was still dry barely a cm below the surface.

Today things have returned to sometthing more akin to an 'average'

summer
day,
if such a thing exists. Sunny start, the cloud building to give a

brief
but
sharp shower
around midday, but some sun again in the afternoon.
Temp has reached 22.0C, cool by recent standards but still a little

on
the
warm
side on average.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl



Col, the Red Triangles of Doom have been in proliferation the last
month,
either for heat of for severe rain and thunder storms. Now it has been
hot
and it has rained, but as I said in a post several days ago (people

have
got
wise and now ignore me) SE England had it's own triangle amongst the

dozens
that cried disaster.

'South-East England:
Heavy Rain (the most dangerous type-wet!)Valid from
17:00'

That was the 26th. Now of course there was some rain but if Noah had

seen
that forecast he would have been down to Wickes and started on his

boat!
He
would have wasted his time though.

You say, in response to Dave C's "Appallingly forecast" thread

"I believe these things are fickle and hence difficult to forecast.

Well if that's the case, don't bleedin' forecast it then!

Nope my old axe that I grind is still this; the UKMO is increasingly
being
tweaked as a propaganda tool. In response the Met hasn't lost the
ability
to forecast but it has lost the ability to have the courage to give the
probability figures.
Now as Dave said it was a dismal without a 'bye your leave' mention

from
UKMO, forecast.

However this unholy alliance with the NHS and PCT's (god I hate that
acronym) acts as a diversion from health issues such as MRSA
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4943496.stmMandeville

or the Stoke Mandeville hospital hygiene scandal

http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/stotty/

Sorry only source I can find at present, scroll down too the second

article.

Is there a similar government warning system about these issues

There could be a level awareness system for hospitals along the lines

of
this.

Alert Level 1- Long waits in A&E
Alert Level 2- take twenty pound to pay for parking and be aware that

Car
could be towed away whilst visiting sick loved ones in hospital.

Alert Level 3 - Expect long delays for relatives and friends in

phoning
the
ward to find out how you are. This is due to an official secrets acts
screening process due to the very serious nature of confidentiality.
In addition if you try to circumvent this fatuous piece of NHS

posturing
called confidentiality, by using the new telephone bedside service;
please
ensure your home has enough collateral to cover the outrageous costs of

the
calls..

Alert Level 4- Very long wait in casualty make sure you take

sandwiches,
and
you've told neighbours you may be gone for a while, and finally make a

will.


Alert Level-4 High levels of MRSA plan for a one way trip only.


Now that's more like it.

D'oh! Now look what I've gone and done. Sorry to awaken you from your

tranquility. ;-(

Dave



You can't be held personally to blame Dave, but maybe, just maybe; you
should have undertaken a risk assessment first?


How glad I am to be rid of them! I remember once having to fill in the risk
from falling - and this was just for people walking around on the floor!
Then there was the NVQ Science student who asked me to help fill in the
questionnaire College had given him.
1. How is the building lit? Is it natural light or artificial light?
F*** me I thought, who wrote these questions?
Thanks for reminding me why I took voluntary redundancy.
Dave




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"Dave.C" wrote in message
.uk...

"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
...

"Dave.C" wrote in message
.uk...

"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
...
"Col" wrote in message
...

"Dave.C" wrote in message
.uk...
Well, as I alluded to last Friday the "first sustained rainfall for
the
S.E"
didn't happen. But last night's News 24 forecast at 12.30 a.m
showed
rain
moving up from the South to cover Kent, Essex, Suffolk and South
Norfolk.
"This may linger all morning in the S.E and be heavy at times the
further
East you are before moving out in to the North Sea"
Didn't even get a mention this morning. There appears to have been
some
rain
on the Kent coast so maybe it was the graphics that were skewed but
the
commentary on them certainly gave an impression of widespread rain
across
the region. Not bad for an eight hour forecast

A wave feature on the front was forecast that simply didn't
materialise.
I believe these things are fickle and hence difficult to forecast.

Here, there wasn't as much rain as I thought. would happen yesterday
evening.
Iwasn't expecting anything particularly wet but I inspected the

ground
this
morning
and the soil was still dry barely a cm below the surface.

Today things have returned to sometthing more akin to an 'average'
summer
day,
if such a thing exists. Sunny start, the cloud building to give a

brief
but
sharp shower
around midday, but some sun again in the afternoon.
Temp has reached 22.0C, cool by recent standards but still a little

on
the
warm
side on average.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl



Col, the Red Triangles of Doom have been in proliferation the last
month,
either for heat of for severe rain and thunder storms. Now it has been
hot
and it has rained, but as I said in a post several days ago (people

have
got
wise and now ignore me) SE England had it's own triangle amongst the
dozens
that cried disaster.

'South-East England:
Heavy Rain (the most dangerous type-wet!)Valid from
17:00'

That was the 26th. Now of course there was some rain but if Noah had

seen
that forecast he would have been down to Wickes and started on his

boat!
He
would have wasted his time though.

You say, in response to Dave C's "Appallingly forecast" thread

"I believe these things are fickle and hence difficult to forecast.

Well if that's the case, don't bleedin' forecast it then!

Nope my old axe that I grind is still this; the UKMO is increasingly
being
tweaked as a propaganda tool. In response the Met hasn't lost the
ability
to forecast but it has lost the ability to have the courage to give
the
probability figures.
Now as Dave said it was a dismal without a 'bye your leave' mention

from
UKMO, forecast.

However this unholy alliance with the NHS and PCT's (god I hate that
acronym) acts as a diversion from health issues such as MRSA
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4943496.stmMandeville

or the Stoke Mandeville hospital hygiene scandal

http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/stotty/

Sorry only source I can find at present, scroll down too the second
article.

Is there a similar government warning system about these issues

There could be a level awareness system for hospitals along the lines

of
this.

Alert Level 1- Long waits in A&E
Alert Level 2- take twenty pound to pay for parking and be aware that

Car
could be towed away whilst visiting sick loved ones in hospital.

Alert Level 3 - Expect long delays for relatives and friends in

phoning
the
ward to find out how you are. This is due to an official secrets acts
screening process due to the very serious nature of confidentiality.
In addition if you try to circumvent this fatuous piece of NHS

posturing
called confidentiality, by using the new telephone bedside service;
please
ensure your home has enough collateral to cover the outrageous costs
of
the
calls..

Alert Level 4- Very long wait in casualty make sure you take

sandwiches,
and
you've told neighbours you may be gone for a while, and finally make a
will.


Alert Level-4 High levels of MRSA plan for a one way trip only.


Now that's more like it.

D'oh! Now look what I've gone and done. Sorry to awaken you from your
tranquility. ;-(

Dave



You can't be held personally to blame Dave, but maybe, just maybe; you
should have undertaken a risk assessment first?


How glad I am to be rid of them! I remember once having to fill in the
risk
from falling - and this was just for people walking around on the floor!
Then there was the NVQ Science student who asked me to help fill in the
questionnaire College had given him.
1. How is the building lit? Is it natural light or artificial light?
F*** me I thought, who wrote these questions?
Thanks for reminding me why I took voluntary redundancy.
Dave



Wished I could Dave then I wouldn't be so irritated... nah I still would.

Ah NVQ's = not very qualified. Dave I could say so much about my 'industyr'
but I'd probably get sacked.




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Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
"Col" wrote in message
...

"Dave.C" wrote in message
.uk...
Well, as I alluded to last Friday the "first sustained rainfall for the
S.E"
didn't happen. But last night's News 24 forecast at 12.30 a.m showed rain
moving up from the South to cover Kent, Essex, Suffolk and South Norfolk.
"This may linger all morning in the S.E and be heavy at times the further
East you are before moving out in to the North Sea"
Didn't even get a mention this morning. There appears to have been some
rain
on the Kent coast so maybe it was the graphics that were skewed but the
commentary on them certainly gave an impression of widespread rain across
the region. Not bad for an eight hour forecast


A wave feature on the front was forecast that simply didn't materialise.
I believe these things are fickle and hence difficult to forecast.

Here, there wasn't as much rain as I thought. would happen yesterday
evening.
Iwasn't expecting anything particularly wet but I inspected the ground
this
morning
and the soil was still dry barely a cm below the surface.

Today things have returned to sometthing more akin to an 'average' summer
day,
if such a thing exists. Sunny start, the cloud building to give a brief
but
sharp shower
around midday, but some sun again in the afternoon.
Temp has reached 22.0C, cool by recent standards but still a little on the
warm
side on average.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl



Col, the Red Triangles of Doom have been in proliferation the last month,
either for heat of for severe rain and thunder storms. Now it has been hot
and it has rained, but as I said in a post several days ago (people have got
wise and now ignore me) SE England had it's own triangle amongst the dozens
that cried disaster.

'South-East England:
Heavy Rain (the most dangerous type-wet!)Valid from
17:00'

That was the 26th. Now of course there was some rain but if Noah had seen
that forecast he would have been down to Wickes and started on his boat! He
would have wasted his time though.

You say, in response to Dave C's "Appallingly forecast" thread

"I believe these things are fickle and hence difficult to forecast.

Well if that's the case, don't bleedin' forecast it then!

Nope my old axe that I grind is still this; the UKMO is increasingly being
tweaked as a propaganda tool. In response the Met hasn't lost the ability
to forecast but it has lost the ability to have the courage to give the
probability figures.
Now as Dave said it was a dismal without a 'bye your leave' mention from
UKMO, forecast.

However this unholy alliance with the NHS and PCT's (god I hate that
acronym) acts as a diversion from health issues such as MRSA
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4943496.stmMandeville

or the Stoke Mandeville hospital hygiene scandal

http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/stotty/

Sorry only source I can find at present, scroll down too the second article.

Is there a similar government warning system about these issues

There could be a level awareness system for hospitals along the lines of
this.

Alert Level 1- Long waits in A&E
Alert Level 2- take twenty pound to pay for parking and be aware that Car
could be towed away whilst visiting sick loved ones in hospital.

Alert Level 3 - Expect long delays for relatives and friends in phoning the
ward to find out how you are. This is due to an official secrets acts
screening process due to the very serious nature of confidentiality.
In addition if you try to circumvent this fatuous piece of NHS posturing
called confidentiality, by using the new telephone bedside service; please
ensure your home has enough collateral to cover the outrageous costs of the
calls..

Alert Level 4- Very long wait in casualty make sure you take sandwiches, and
you've told neighbours you may be gone for a while, and finally make a will.


Alert Level-4 High levels of MRSA plan for a one way trip only.


Now that's more like it.


You spoil your good points by off-topic ranting, Lawrence.
Pack it up.

Tudor Hughes.

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"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
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"Col" wrote in message

You say, in response to Dave C's "Appallingly forecast" thread

"I believe these things are fickle and hence difficult to forecast.

Well if that's the case, don't bleedin' forecast it then!


No, but it *might* have happened.
But they could've alluded to this uncertainty in the forecast.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl



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"Tudor Hughes" wrote in message
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Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
"Col" wrote in message
...

"Dave.C" wrote in message
.uk...
Well, as I alluded to last Friday the "first sustained rainfall for
the
S.E"
didn't happen. But last night's News 24 forecast at 12.30 a.m showed
rain
moving up from the South to cover Kent, Essex, Suffolk and South
Norfolk.
"This may linger all morning in the S.E and be heavy at times the
further
East you are before moving out in to the North Sea"
Didn't even get a mention this morning. There appears to have been
some
rain
on the Kent coast so maybe it was the graphics that were skewed but
the
commentary on them certainly gave an impression of widespread rain
across
the region. Not bad for an eight hour forecast

A wave feature on the front was forecast that simply didn't
materialise.
I believe these things are fickle and hence difficult to forecast.

Here, there wasn't as much rain as I thought. would happen yesterday
evening.
Iwasn't expecting anything particularly wet but I inspected the ground
this
morning
and the soil was still dry barely a cm below the surface.

Today things have returned to sometthing more akin to an 'average'
summer
day,
if such a thing exists. Sunny start, the cloud building to give a brief
but
sharp shower
around midday, but some sun again in the afternoon.
Temp has reached 22.0C, cool by recent standards but still a little on
the
warm
side on average.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl



Col, the Red Triangles of Doom have been in proliferation the last
month,
either for heat of for severe rain and thunder storms. Now it has been
hot
and it has rained, but as I said in a post several days ago (people have
got
wise and now ignore me) SE England had it's own triangle amongst the
dozens
that cried disaster.

'South-East England:
Heavy Rain (the most dangerous type-wet!)Valid from
17:00'

That was the 26th. Now of course there was some rain but if Noah had seen
that forecast he would have been down to Wickes and started on his boat!
He
would have wasted his time though.

You say, in response to Dave C's "Appallingly forecast" thread

"I believe these things are fickle and hence difficult to forecast.

Well if that's the case, don't bleedin' forecast it then!

Nope my old axe that I grind is still this; the UKMO is increasingly
being
tweaked as a propaganda tool. In response the Met hasn't lost the
ability
to forecast but it has lost the ability to have the courage to give the
probability figures.
Now as Dave said it was a dismal without a 'bye your leave' mention from
UKMO, forecast.

However this unholy alliance with the NHS and PCT's (god I hate that
acronym) acts as a diversion from health issues such as MRSA
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4943496.stmMandeville

or the Stoke Mandeville hospital hygiene scandal

http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/stotty/

Sorry only source I can find at present, scroll down too the second
article.

Is there a similar government warning system about these issues

There could be a level awareness system for hospitals along the lines of
this.

Alert Level 1- Long waits in A&E
Alert Level 2- take twenty pound to pay for parking and be aware that Car
could be towed away whilst visiting sick loved ones in hospital.

Alert Level 3 - Expect long delays for relatives and friends in phoning
the
ward to find out how you are. This is due to an official secrets acts
screening process due to the very serious nature of confidentiality.
In addition if you try to circumvent this fatuous piece of NHS posturing
called confidentiality, by using the new telephone bedside service;
please
ensure your home has enough collateral to cover the outrageous costs of
the
calls..

Alert Level 4- Very long wait in casualty make sure you take sandwiches,
and
you've told neighbours you may be gone for a while, and finally make a
will.


Alert Level-4 High levels of MRSA plan for a one way trip only.


Now that's more like it.


You spoil your good points by off-topic ranting, Lawrence.
Pack it up.

Tudor Hughes.



Tudor I really believe there is a link between the presentation and the spin
put on the weather and this government, they are at it all the time with
nonsensensical H&S standards; that we in the UK at the behest of the tax
payer and business costs are obliged to implement. It seems completley lost
on these cretins that the majority of Europe comes nowhere near the UK in
terms of safety standards.

Now as it's UKMO and people often complain about the hyperbole from the
met-o I thought it was on-topic.

I'm no more over the top than thoses seas of red triangles that keep turning
up that have no foundation in reality.

By the way your "pack it up", was that a level-2 or a level-3 warning?

But seriously don't you think these warnings are over hyped? If you do
then the question has to be why?


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By the way your "pack it up", was that a level-2 or a level-3 warning?


I'll go for a level 4, due to the prolonged emergency of you continually
making funny comments about this kind of thing

But seriously don't you think these warnings are over hyped? If you do
then the question has to be why?


Agreed. If we are going to have such warnings then let's at least make
their threshold at a level at which is exceptional, such as the 35C that we
had a couple of weeks ago. Not being triggered a couple of times of
year by a 'normal' heatwave. That simply dilutes their effect.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl





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