wrote:

Ian wrote:

Oh, you'll get the hang of it in no time, I've no doubt!

My spur was jabbing at the poster to whom you replied. A google search
Oh, OK - a thousand pardons, m'sieur!
on him turned up the fact he was using that name for the first time.

He was a troll, you think? Certainly,announcing oneself as an American in any
European n/group might be seen these last few years almost as an act of
provocation (and we all know who is
mainly responsible for that!)but other than that I took it as a straight post.
It engendered some interesting followups anyway.

As it happens there is no such thing as global warming, so my part in
such discussions is merely to point out the obvious -in that such
condition have previously occurred in times when there was no
industrial pollution on the global scale we now have.

Conditions that affect the planet all come down to the way that humans
treat each other. And that is all about religion. And since the planet
at the moment is in the hands of monkeys it is no doubt the reason why
god seems to have abandoned it to them.

I'm a lifelong agnostic, but I have occasionally wondered if maybe Beelzebub
or Satan if you prefer, has been running the world for the last few thousand
years.
Consider the biggest monkey. Allegedly he talks to god. If god ever
says anything back it must be on the lines of "stop lying you bloody
monkey".
I sincerely believe every word he says, honestly ....

But to get away rom the religious aspect, the OP pointed out that
industrial processes produce the greenhouse gasses. These are chemical
reactions that will reverse themselves one day one way or another.

In the meantime most of the rhetoric ignores the fact that it is the
type and height of cloud that seems to control the blanketing or
insulation values. But these things are at best a daily or at worst a
weekly blip. The heat eventually escapes and will continue to do so as
long as hot air rises.

What seems to be happening this year is that ocean currents have slowed
to a crawl and that is not cause by men releasing clouds of
carbonaceous gasses.

It may well be that there is a cycle based on celestial mechanics
involved and there may be a layer of ecological disaster involved in
there too. You can't harvest the oceans day in day out 24/7 without
upsetting the sea's natural balance.

We know what happens when fields are overgrazed and forests razed. Why
shouldn't the same effect hold true beneath the waves?

Can it be put right? Not by putting solar panels on houses it can't.
And how much wind power would it have failed to supply had there been a
massive investment in windmills to power the fans we were all using
during this last hot weather?

If there had been a breeze there would have been no need for the fans.
As proof of the fact the world is in the hands of monkeys, we will now
see a greater investment in the useless and a continuance in entirely
missing out on putting the right things in order.

Bollock brain or not, I can see that much happening once the sock
puppet we have in charge of losing the peace, is replaced.



--
Ian

"Ian" wrote in message
He was a troll, you think? Certainly,announcing oneself as an American in
any
European n/group might be seen these last few years almost as an act of
provocation (and we all know who is
mainly responsible for that!)but other than that I took it as a straight
post.
It engendered some interesting followups anyway.

Thanks for the vote of confidence Ian. In fact if anyone was trolling, it
was the OP.

"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
My spur was jabbing at the poster to whom you repled. A google search
on him turned up the fact he was using that name for the first time.

regarding my frequency on the group, so what? I'm new, and I use my real
name not hide behind some hotmail address.

"Paul Herber" wrote in message
ell.net...
On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:29:37 +0100, "Lawrence Jenkins"
wrote:

Well Rob I think the issue that's never mentioned but is core to the
problem of energy usage is capitalism. That's the way it works it relies
on
constant growth and greater output -whether we need it or not.

Please point us to a copy of Pravda where the Russian communist regime
were pleased to announce a reduction in output of the state tractor
and combine harvester factories.


--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd. http://www.pherber.com/
http://www.sandrila.co.uk/


Sorry Paul I don't think I made my point very well. I've consistently
believed that it was capitalism that dragged us all out of the Dark Ages, my
point was though that the way it has to work is based on ever expanding
growth, and increased consumerism that for me is the part we have to grasp.
Communism as we've all experienced so far has produced nothing but
ideologically driven disaster. We're seeing a bit of Stalin's Five year
plans in NHS targets at the moment.

..

"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
ps.com...

Ian wrote:

A bollock brain wouldn't understand the concept of a discussion group
anyway.

Oh, you'll get the hang of it in no time, I've no doubt!

My spur was jabbing at the poster to whom you repled. A google search
on him turned up the fact he was using that name for the first time.

As it happens there is no such thing as global warming, so my part in
such discussions is merley to point out the obvious -in that such
condition have previously occurred in times when there was no
industrial pollution on the global scale we now have.

Conditions that affect the planet all come down to the way that humans
treat each other. And that is all about religion. And since the planet
at the moment is in the hands of monkeys it is no doubt the reason why
god seems to have abandonned it to them.

Consider the biggest monkey. Allegedly he talks to god. If god ever
says anything back it must be on the lines of "stop lying you bloody
monkey".

But to get away rom the religious aspect, the OP pointed out that
industrial processes produce the greenhouse gasses. These are chemical
reactions that will reverse themselves one day one way or another.

In the meantime most of the rhetoric ignores the fact that it is the
type and height of cloud that seems to control the blanketing or
insulation values. But these things are at best a daily or at worst a
weekly blip. The heat eventually escapes and will continue to do so as
long as hot air rises.

What seems to be happening this year is that ocean currents have slowed
to a crawl and that is not cause by men releasing clouds of
carbonaceous gasses.

It may well be that there is a cycle based on celestial mechanics
involved and there may be a layer of ecological disaster involved in
there too. You can't harvest the oceans day in day out 24/7 without
upsetting the sea's natural balance.

We know what happens when fields are overgrazed and forests razed. Why
shouldn't the same effect hold true beneath the waves?

Can it be put right? Not by putting solar panels on houses it can't.
And how much wind power would it have fialed to supply had there been a
massive investment in windmills to power the fans we were all using
during this last hot weather?

If there had been a breeze there would have been no need for the fans.
As proof of the fact the world is in the hands of monkeys, we will now
see a greater investment in the useless and a continuance in entirely
missing out on putting the right things in order.

Bollock brain or not, I can see that much happening once the sock
puppet we have in charge of losing the peace, is replaced.



:-)