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![]() "Ian" wrote in message He was a troll, you think? Certainly,announcing oneself as an American in any European n/group might be seen these last few years almost as an act of provocation (and we all know who is mainly responsible for that!)but other than that I took it as a straight post. It engendered some interesting followups anyway. Thanks for the vote of confidence Ian. In fact if anyone was trolling, it was the OP. |
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![]() "Weatherlawyer" wrote in message My spur was jabbing at the poster to whom you repled. A google search on him turned up the fact he was using that name for the first time. regarding my frequency on the group, so what? I'm new, and I use my real name not hide behind some hotmail address. |
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![]() "Paul Herber" wrote in message ell.net... On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:29:37 +0100, "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote: Well Rob I think the issue that's never mentioned but is core to the problem of energy usage is capitalism. That's the way it works it relies on constant growth and greater output -whether we need it or not. Please point us to a copy of Pravda where the Russian communist regime were pleased to announce a reduction in output of the state tractor and combine harvester factories. -- Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd. http://www.pherber.com/ http://www.sandrila.co.uk/ Sorry Paul I don't think I made my point very well. I've consistently believed that it was capitalism that dragged us all out of the Dark Ages, my point was though that the way it has to work is based on ever expanding growth, and increased consumerism that for me is the part we have to grasp. Communism as we've all experienced so far has produced nothing but ideologically driven disaster. We're seeing a bit of Stalin's Five year plans in NHS targets at the moment. .. |
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![]() "Weatherlawyer" wrote in message ps.com... Ian wrote: A bollock brain wouldn't understand the concept of a discussion group anyway. Oh, you'll get the hang of it in no time, I've no doubt! My spur was jabbing at the poster to whom you repled. A google search on him turned up the fact he was using that name for the first time. As it happens there is no such thing as global warming, so my part in such discussions is merley to point out the obvious -in that such condition have previously occurred in times when there was no industrial pollution on the global scale we now have. Conditions that affect the planet all come down to the way that humans treat each other. And that is all about religion. And since the planet at the moment is in the hands of monkeys it is no doubt the reason why god seems to have abandonned it to them. Consider the biggest monkey. Allegedly he talks to god. If god ever says anything back it must be on the lines of "stop lying you bloody monkey". But to get away rom the religious aspect, the OP pointed out that industrial processes produce the greenhouse gasses. These are chemical reactions that will reverse themselves one day one way or another. In the meantime most of the rhetoric ignores the fact that it is the type and height of cloud that seems to control the blanketing or insulation values. But these things are at best a daily or at worst a weekly blip. The heat eventually escapes and will continue to do so as long as hot air rises. What seems to be happening this year is that ocean currents have slowed to a crawl and that is not cause by men releasing clouds of carbonaceous gasses. It may well be that there is a cycle based on celestial mechanics involved and there may be a layer of ecological disaster involved in there too. You can't harvest the oceans day in day out 24/7 without upsetting the sea's natural balance. We know what happens when fields are overgrazed and forests razed. Why shouldn't the same effect hold true beneath the waves? Can it be put right? Not by putting solar panels on houses it can't. And how much wind power would it have fialed to supply had there been a massive investment in windmills to power the fans we were all using during this last hot weather? If there had been a breeze there would have been no need for the fans. As proof of the fact the world is in the hands of monkeys, we will now see a greater investment in the useless and a continuance in entirely missing out on putting the right things in order. Bollock brain or not, I can see that much happening once the sock puppet we have in charge of losing the peace, is replaced. :-) |
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