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Based on the mean CET of Dec-Jan-Feb, the 10 mildest winters from 1660
to 2004 inclusive are (year in which the January falls): Year Mean CET (degrees C) 1869 6.7 1834 6.6 1989 6.5 1975 6.5 1686 6.3 1796 6.3 1990 6.2 1935 6.1 1734 6.1 1998 6.1 These are more evenly spread over the period than one might have expected, though there have been three since 1989. It's noticeable how even in the coldest periods of the "Little Ice Age" very mild winters came along occasionally (1686 only two years after 1684, and 1796 the very next year after the coldest January in the instrumental record). Note the mild winters in 1734, 1834 and 1935. Others have noticed the suggestion of a cycle of length very close to 100 years in the coldest British winters, and here is something similar with the mildest. Probably no more than coincidence, though. And the 10 coldest: Year Mean CET (degrees C) 1684 -1.2 1740 -0.4 1963 -0.3 1814 0.4 1795 0.5 1879 0.6 1695 0.7 1716 0.8 1679 1.0 1681 1.0 Unlike the mild winters, here there is an obvious bias towards the early part of the period. We have 4 within 40 years at the end of the 17th century, 3 in the 18th, 2 in the 19th and 1 in the 20th. Looking at the 20th century, 1947 comes in 15th with 1.2C, 1940 23rd with 1.4, 1917 26th with 1.5, 1979 29th with 1.6, 1929 33rd with 1.7. -- John Hall "Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong." Oscar Wilde |
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![]() "John Hall" wrote : Based on the mean CET of Dec-Jan-Feb, the 10 mildest winters from 1660 to 2004 inclusive are (year in which the January falls): Year Mean CET (degrees C) 1869 6.7 1834 6.6 1989 6.5 1975 6.5 1686 6.3 1796 6.3 1990 6.2 1935 6.1 1734 6.1 1998 6.1 And we look like ending up at 6.1 or 6.0 this month. "Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong." Oscar Wilde I know exactly how you feel, old chum. Philip Eden |
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Philip Eden writes: "John Hall" wrote : Based on the mean CET of Dec-Jan-Feb, the 10 mildest winters from 1660 to 2004 inclusive are (year in which the January falls): Year Mean CET (degrees C) 1869 6.7 1834 6.6 1989 6.5 1975 6.5 1686 6.3 1796 6.3 1990 6.2 1935 6.1 1734 6.1 1998 6.1 And we look like ending up at 6.1 or 6.0 this month. Which puts things nicely into perspective, in that it's obviously much rarer for that degree of mildness to persist over three winter months rather than just one. -- John Hall "Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong." Oscar Wilde |
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![]() "John Hall" wrote in message ... Based on the mean CET of Dec-Jan-Feb, the 10 mildest winters from 1660 to 2004 inclusive are (year in which the January falls): Year Mean CET (degrees C) 1869 6.7 1834 6.6 1989 6.5 1975 6.5 1686 6.3 1796 6.3 1990 6.2 1935 6.1 1734 6.1 1998 6.1 These are more evenly spread over the period than one might have expected, though there have been three since 1989. It's noticeable how even in the coldest periods of the "Little Ice Age" very mild winters came along occasionally (1686 only two years after 1684, and 1796 the very next year after the coldest January in the instrumental record). Note the mild winters in 1734, 1834 and 1935. Others have noticed the suggestion of a cycle of length very close to 100 years in the coldest British winters, and here is something similar with the mildest. Probably no more than coincidence, though. And the 10 coldest: Year Mean CET (degrees C) 1684 -1.2 1740 -0.4 1963 -0.3 1814 0.4 1795 0.5 1879 0.6 1695 0.7 1716 0.8 1679 1.0 1681 1.0 Unlike the mild winters, here there is an obvious bias towards the early part of the period. We have 4 within 40 years at the end of the 17th century, 3 in the 18th, 2 in the 19th and 1 in the 20th. Looking at the 20th century, 1947 comes in 15th with 1.2C, 1940 23rd with 1.4, 1917 26th with 1.5, 1979 29th with 1.6, 1929 33rd with 1.7. -- John Hall "Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong." Oscar Wilde I was just thinking about this the way we are going this winter. If February is anything like as mild as this month it could enter your list of the mild ones. Thanks for this piece if excellent infomation John. Gavin. |
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I always thought that 1988 was the mildest on record, with 1998 a VERY
close second. Shows how much I know though.:-) Interestingly, if Metcheck's Martin Chuter's unofficial predictions are correct over on TWO, then, paradoxically, the winter of 2007 into 2008(!) could actually do very well out of this coming solar minima.:-) D. |
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