August 8, 2006 - With the peak of the Atlantic hurricane season upon
us, experts from NOAA are reiterating their prediction for an
above-normal number of storms. NOAA scientists warn this year's
relatively quiet start is not an indication of what the remainder of
the season has in store.

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2006/s2678.htm

Bonos Ego wrote:
August 8, 2006 - With the peak of the Atlantic hurricane season upon
us, experts from NOAA are reiterating their prediction for an
above-normal number of storms. NOAA scientists warn this year's
relatively quiet start is not an indication of what the remainder of
the season has in store.

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2006/s2678.htm

Full Globe View Africa @
12:00z:http://fvalk.com/images/Day_image/ME...8-1200-WLD.jpg

Full Globe View Americas @ 18:00z:
http://fvalk.com/images/Day_image/GOES-12-1800.jpg

Full Globe View Pacific @ 21:00z:
http://fvalk.com/images/Day_image/GOES-10-2100.jp

"Bonos Ego" wrote in message
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August 8, 2006 - With the peak of the Atlantic hurricane season upon
us, experts from NOAA are reiterating their prediction for an
above-normal number of storms. NOAA scientists warn this year's
relatively quiet start is not an indication of what the remainder of
the season has in store.

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2006/s2678.htm


Funny I was thinking exactly that David. A sense of false security etc. Looking
at the ensembles this morning there seems to be coming a dramatic change to more
"normal" conditions in the general circulation, at least in the Atlantic basin.
After next weekend we can expect roaring westerlies and an end to the blocked
conditions we have "enjoyed" for so long now. Of course, it is forecast data I
am looking at, but the signal is there. Watch out, normality is set to hit us
big time :-)

Will (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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Will Hand wrote:
"Bonos Ego" wrote in message
oups.com...
August 8, 2006 - With the peak of the Atlantic hurricane season upon
us, experts from NOAA are reiterating their prediction for an
above-normal number of storms. NOAA scientists warn this year's
relatively quiet start is not an indication of what the remainder of
the season has in store.

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2006/s2678.htm


Funny I was thinking exactly that David. A sense of false security etc. Looking
at the ensembles this morning there seems to be coming a dramatic change to more
"normal" conditions in the general circulation, at least in the Atlantic basin.
After next weekend we can expect roaring westerlies and an end to the blocked
conditions we have "enjoyed" for so long now. Of course, it is forecast data I
am looking at, but the signal is there. Watch out, normality is set to hit us
big time :-)

Will (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
--

Those words are from NOAA's site, not mine!

How is Haytor this morning?

Looking from Teignmouth towards Haytor, the clouds are starting to
build now.

"Bonos Ego" wrote in message
oups.com...
August 8, 2006 - With the peak of the Atlantic hurricane season
upon
us, experts from NOAA are reiterating their prediction for an
above-normal number of storms. NOAA scientists warn this year's
relatively quiet start is not an indication of what the remainder
of
the season has in store.

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2006/s2678.htm

Comparing last year at this time:-
https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/products/...sstanomaly.gif

with this year:-
https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/products/...sstanomaly.gif

It is noticeable that we have not got the marked (and reasonably large)
'warm patch' just east of the Lesser Antilles, though the NOAA statement
says that the sea temperatures are still generally above average. There
is a complication, as I understand that the climatology used for these
anomaly maps has changed, and of course whether or not fully-formed T/S
develop is not just a case of lifting the SST's etc.

It will be interesting to see how this year's Hurricane season works
out, as in my mind, we need some of the 'debris' development from that
side of the Atlantic to kick our own synoptic patterns into a different
gear: it's all got a bit 'stuck' at the moment!

Martin.


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Martin Rowley wrote:

It is noticeable that we have not got the marked (and reasonably large)
'warm patch' just east of the Lesser Antilles, though the NOAA statement
says that the sea temperatures are still generally above average. There
is a complication, as I understand that the climatology used for these
anomaly maps has changed, and of course whether or not fully-formed T/S
develop is not just a case of lifting the SST's etc.

I must say that the stuff I do has been all to cock whilst the NAO is
negative so there is a silver lining over this side of the pond too*.
The soil in my garden is still bone dry a few inches down. Though that
may be because I am only looking at the parts where I have nothing
growing.

It will be interesting to see how this year's Hurricane season works
out, as in my mind, we need some of the 'debris' development from that
side of the Atlantic to kick our own synoptic patterns into a different
gear: it's all got a bit 'stuck' at the moment!

This sounds a little like complacency. There have been a number of
misty days here with no appreciable Extra Tropical Storms forming. Last
year the phenomenae were intimately linked.

This season is very much an experience to be savoured. I can't help but
think that more than one or two here are missing out on it, waiting for
"debris" so that more garbage can be put into the models.

To say that "we need some of the 'debris' development from that side of
the Atlantic to kick our own synoptic patterns into a different gear"
is to ignore the holistic idea that far from requiring one spell to
finish with things in one region to knock on the weather rom another
region.

The root cause of all weather is not weather and the weather has no
memory -neither does it instill phenomena elsewhere. It is impossible
for a pneumatic system to compress itself never mind travel with the
compression or expansion other than adiabatically, to supply forces
many miles away.

I am sure I could have written that better. But will you agree that the
dynamics require ridiculous amounts of input to travel?

The forces involved in the dynamics of a system over a given period can
be measured. The power required to hold that system intact and move
other systems out of the way is not.

At least not with pneumodynamics it isn't. Is it?

*It should have been sunny with not much cloud for these last two
spells.

Weatherlawyer wrote:

The forces involved in the dynamics of a system over a given period can
be measured. The power required to hold that system intact and move
other systems out of the way is not?

A short animation of fluid flow he
http://www.math.rug.nl/~veldman/movies/block_200.mpg

And lots of great pics and links he
http://www.galleryoffluidmechanics.com/vortex/re200.htm

(I haven't quite answered the million dollar question yet though.)

Weatherlawyer wrote:
Martin Rowley wrote:

It is noticeable that we have not got the marked (and reasonably large)
'warm patch' just east of the Lesser Antilles, though the NOAA statement
says that the sea temperatures are still generally above average. There
is a complication, as I understand that the climatology used for these
anomaly maps has changed, and of course whether or not fully-formed T/S
develop is not just a case of lifting the SST's etc.

I must say that the stuff I do has been all to cock whilst the NAO is
negative so there is a silver lining over this side of the pond too*.
The soil in my garden is still bone dry a few inches down. Though that
may be because I am only looking at the parts where I have nothing
growing.

It will be interesting to see how this year's Hurricane season works
out, as in my mind, we need some of the 'debris' development from that
side of the Atlantic to kick our own synoptic patterns into a different
gear: it's all got a bit 'stuck' at the moment!

This sounds a little like complacency. There have been a number of
misty days here with no appreciable Extra Tropical Storms forming. Last
year the phenomenae were intimately linked.

This season is very much an experience to be savoured. I can't help but
think that more than one or two here are missing out on it, waiting for
"debris" so that more garbage can be put into the models.

To say that "we need some of the 'debris' development from that side of
the Atlantic to kick our own synoptic patterns into a different gear"
is to ignore the holistic idea that far from requiring one spell to
finish with things in one region to knock on the weather rom another
region.

The root cause of all weather is not weather and the weather has no
memory -neither does it instill phenomena elsewhere. It is impossible
for a pneumatic system to compress itself never mind travel with the
compression or expansion other than adiabatically, to supply forces
many miles away.

I am sure I could have written that better. But will you agree that the
dynamics require ridiculous amounts of input to travel?

The forces involved in the dynamics of a system over a given period can
be measured. The power required to hold that system intact and move
other systems out of the way is not.

At least not with pneumodynamics it isn't. Is it?

*It should have been sunny with not much cloud for these last two
spells.

It will be interesting to see how the next spell will work out. Did I
not warn that there might be some reaction to the (for UK standards)
drought in the SE of England with the spell for August the ninth?

These weather patterns should have occurred:
AUG. 9 10 54 Sunny days and cloudles cool nights with some frosts.
AUG. 16 1 51 Somewhat similar.

And now the weather, which has been wet overall, is due to be wet
overall. So it looks interesting for the next few days too then.
AUG. 23 19 10 Wet and windy.

Better dust off the deck chairs. I could use a breeze though as I
bought some daffs a few weeks back and have not planted them due to the
bloody plague of gnats. Which in keepining with a biblical theme
produced the mark of Moses on my arms.

Cross posted to my favourite newsgroup for the sake of a rather stupid
boy.

"Bonos Ego" wrote in message
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Will Hand wrote:
"Bonos Ego" wrote in message
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August 8, 2006 - With the peak of the Atlantic hurricane season upon
us, experts from NOAA are reiterating their prediction for an
above-normal number of storms. NOAA scientists warn this year's
relatively quiet start is not an indication of what the remainder of
the season has in store.

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2006/s2678.htm


Funny I was thinking exactly that David. A sense of false security etc.
Looking
at the ensembles this morning there seems to be coming a dramatic change to
more
"normal" conditions in the general circulation, at least in the Atlantic
basin.
After next weekend we can expect roaring westerlies and an end to the
blocked
conditions we have "enjoyed" for so long now. Of course, it is forecast data
I
am looking at, but the signal is there. Watch out, normality is set to hit
us
big time :-)

Will (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
--

Those words are from NOAA's site, not mine!

How is Haytor this morning?

Looking from Teignmouth towards Haytor, the clouds are starting to
build now.


Just had a very light shower at 1025.
More data on my web site, see sig.

Will.
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