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This is the week I'm due to be in St Ives on holiday...
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Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

Paul Hyett wrote:

From today's Mirror

http://tinyurl.com/ocmmr

This is the week I'm due to be in St Ives on holiday...
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Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

I saw that, I think some perspective is needed.

In Newquay (the nearest I've got full tide details to St Ives), the
highest Spring Tide in September (9th) is 7.8m above chart datum, which
is about as high as it gets. However the 7.7m in October is achieved at
some point most years. The exceptional September tide is just 4-5"
above the normal highest tide of the year.

If low barometric pressure is combined with an onshore gale it can
raise the astronomical tide by a few feet. Add to this a 10'+ swell,
not uncommon in Cornwall, then a Spring tide a few inches above the
normal for the equinoctal period is actually of fairly minor
importance. Adverse weather conditions on a large spring tide are bad
news, whether the tide is 7.6m or 7.8m.

During the October 2004 storm which hit Penzance, the swell was 15-20',
the storm surge several feet, so huge waves were breaking right on the
sea defences. It was truly scary to watch. At Mousehole the sea was
breaking up and washing away concrete normally 10' above the normal HW
Spring Tide level. It was flooding cottages around the harbour by
shooting up into the air, and going down the chimneys. So a Spring tide
a few inches above the normal equinoctal spring, is really that big a
deal. But it's certainly something to watch.

Graham
Penzance

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Graham Easterling writes

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This is the week I'm due to be in St Ives on holiday...

I saw that, I think some perspective is needed.

In Newquay (the nearest I've got full tide details to St Ives), the
highest Spring Tide in September (9th) is 7.8m above chart datum, which
is about as high as it gets.

There were 7.9's on 25th & 26th Sep 1980. (I knew I'd eventually find a
reason for keeping old tide tables).

However the 7.7m in October is achieved at
some point most years.

Yes, I kept the list of tides for that week you posted back in January.


The exceptional September tide is just 4-5"
above the normal highest tide of the year.

There seems to a 4 year cycle - over that period, the biggest annual
tide varies between about 7.5 & 7.8m.

In fact there seem to be all kinds of cycles involved in calculating
tides - whether the biggest are with new or full moons, time of year,
etc. I wonder if there's a good website which lists most, or all of the
(non-random) influences on tide height?

If low barometric pressure is combined with an onshore gale it can
raise the astronomical tide by a few feet. Add to this a 10'+ swell,
not uncommon in Cornwall, then a Spring tide a few inches above the
normal for the equinoctal period is actually of fairly minor
importance. Adverse weather conditions on a large spring tide are bad
news, whether the tide is 7.6m or 7.8m.

Well, the place I'm staying is on the Wharf, about 150 yards from
Smeaton's Pier - fortunately it's on the first floor though, and the
entrance is about 10 feet higher than the sea wall...

Gonna make sure my camcorder batteries are fully charged, though!

During the October 2004 storm which hit Penzance, the swell was 15-20',
the storm surge several feet, so huge waves were breaking right on the
sea defences. It was truly scary to watch. At Mousehole the sea was
breaking up and washing away concrete normally 10' above the normal HW
Spring Tide level. It was flooding cottages around the harbour by
shooting up into the air, and going down the chimneys. So a Spring tide
a few inches above the normal equinoctal spring, is really that big a
deal. But it's certainly something to watch.

I've noticed that the high tide starts reaching the road above the
slipway near the Sloop, once the predicted height is around 6.8m (in
normal weather).
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Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

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Paul Hyett at wrote:

From today's Mirror

http://tinyurl.com/ocmmr

This is the week I'm due to be in St Ives on holiday...

I know there's been much talk about it for the East Coast, with a lot of
that being quite low-lying...
--
Rob Overfield
Hull
http://talkingtoomuchagain.blogspot.com

Rob Overfield wrote:

I know there's been much talk about it for the East Coast, with a lot of
that being quite low-lying...
--
Rob Overfield
Hull
http://talkingtoomuchagain.blogspot.com

Hi, Rob,

I can just remember the 1953 event in Scarborough (as you well know, I
am that old!). The big, big difference this time, if it happens - and I
sincerely hope it will not happen, will be communication. People will
be well aware and be informed which they were not 53 years ago.

Ken
Copley (ex-Scarborough)

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Ken Cook at wrote:

Rob Overfield wrote:

I know there's been much talk about it for the East Coast, with a
lot of that being quite low-lying...
--
Rob Overfield
Hull
http://talkingtoomuchagain.blogspot.com

Hi, Rob,

I can just remember the 1953 event in Scarborough (as you well know, I
am that old!). The big, big difference this time, if it happens - and
I sincerely hope it will not happen, will be communication. People
will be well aware and be informed which they were not 53 years ago.

Ken
Copley (ex-Scarborough)

I know you're old enough Ken! When the last recent 'high' tide hit
Scarborough, they sent the forecaster to stand on the promenade, and indeed
there was a northerly and the silly beggar got soaked! hehehe!

I'll be curious to see what happens the next couple of months this comes
around.
--
Rob Overfield
Hull
http://talkingtoomuchagain.blogspot.com

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Scribbled on a tatty piece of sub-atomic ether,
Paul Hyett at wrote:

From today's Mirror

http://tinyurl.com/ocmmr

This is the week I'm due to be in St Ives on holiday...

I know there's been much talk about it for the East Coast, with a lot of
that being quite low-lying...
--
Rob Overfield
Hull
http://talkingtoomuchagain.blogspot.com



Hull City are quite low lying at the moment, so watch out for a mass
evacuation of the KC.

--
David Mitchell, 70m amsl, Langtoft, East Riding of Yorkshire.

Last year I had a Tide Table booklet for Cornish ports issued free by a
local chandler. (MacSalvors, Pool)

MacSalvors eh!
My old school mate Neil MacQuarrie Esq still in business then!!!

--
David Mitchell, 70m amsl, Langtoft, East Riding of Yorkshire.

David Mitchell wrote:


Hull City are quite low lying at the moment, so watch out for a mass
evacuation of the KC.


It doesn't need excessively high tides to do that

Les
--
Les Crossan,
Wallsend, Tyne & Wear
54.95N 1.5W
Home of the Wallsend StormCam and the Backup USW FAQ -
www.uksevereweather.org.uk

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David Mitchell at wrote:

"Rob Overfield" wrote in message
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Scribbled on a tatty piece of sub-atomic ether,
Paul Hyett at wrote:

From today's Mirror

http://tinyurl.com/ocmmr

This is the week I'm due to be in St Ives on holiday...

I know there's been much talk about it for the East Coast, with a
lot of that being quite low-lying...
--
Rob Overfield
Hull
http://talkingtoomuchagain.blogspot.com



Hull City are quite low lying at the moment, so watch out for a mass
evacuation of the KC.

Low blow, Dave.... just wait til the upcoming game.
--
Rob Overfield
Hull
http://talkingtoomuchagain.blogspot.com