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Quote from latest discussion on Florence from the NHC:

FLORENCE HAS REFUSED TO STRENGTHEN WHILE IN THE TROPICS...LIKE MOST THE
SYSTEMS SO FAR THIS YEAR. HOWEVER...THE CYCLONE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO
AS IT MOVES NORTHWESTWARD AND NORTHWARD AHEAD OF THE APPROACHING TROUGH
DURING THE NEXT 2 TO 3 DAYS...AND BEFORE THE SHEAR INCREASES SIGNIFICANTLY.
THEREAFTER...IT SHOULD BECOME AN INTENSE EXTRATROPICAL SYSTEM. THE INTENSITY
FORECAST FOR FLORENCE SEEMS MORE UNCERTAIN THAN USUAL.

Does this bode ill for our weather? The T+144 UKMO and T+144 GFS suggest it
might...

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On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:34:20 +0100, "Rob Overfield"
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Does this bode ill for our weather? The T+144 UKMO and T+144 GFS suggest it
might...


I have always wondered how much a former TS 'upsets' the Atlantic. I
think a couple of years ago we had a rejuvenated former TS that
produced a good gale.The sort of thing that locals in Dorset always
say - in the village shop,of course - that autumn is on its way..
R
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Could we possibly have another abbreviation for Tropical Storm? I read
the subject and thought someone was giving a weather report of a
thunder storm in Firenze.

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Scribbled on a tatty piece of sub-atomic ether,
Adrian D. Shaw at wrote:

Could we possibly have another abbreviation for Tropical Storm? I read
the subject and thought someone was giving a weather report of a
thunder storm in Firenze.

Adrian


Adrian, thats the official designation from National Hurricane Centre. You
going to tell them to change?? )
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Adrian D. Shaw at wrote:
Could we possibly have another abbreviation for Tropical Storm? I
read

the subject and thought someone was giving a weather report of a
thunder storm in Firenze.


"Rob Overfield" wrote in message
. uk...
Adrian


Adrian, thats the official designation from National Hurricane Centre.
You
going to tell them to change?? )


.... a pity that when deciding on the METAR code letters for a
thunderstorm the powers-that-were (1950's??) decided to use 'TS' rather
than base it on the Beaufort letters for a thunderstorm 'tl' (i.e. a mix
of 't' for thunder heard & 'l' for lightning seen, thus making 'TL').
Unfortunately we're stuck with it. However, often in operational use,
the 'TS' for tropical storm has been written as 'T/S' which could be a
work-around within the newsgroup.

(From an old book I have dated 1938, in the US, the abbreviation for a
thunderstorm when transmitted on a teleprinter was simply 'T', with
qualifiers *after* the letter, thus a 'mild thunderstorm' was
transmitted as ' T- ', a 'severe thunderstorm' as 'T+'. In the same
section, the note " TORNADO: always (underlined) written out in full".

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Scribbled on a tatty piece of sub-atomic ether,
Martin Rowley at m wrote:

Adrian D. Shaw at wrote:
Could we possibly have another abbreviation for Tropical Storm? I
read
the subject and thought someone was giving a weather report of a
thunder storm in Firenze.


"Rob Overfield" wrote in message
. uk...
Adrian


Adrian, thats the official designation from National Hurricane
Centre. You
going to tell them to change?? )


... a pity that when deciding on the METAR code letters for a
thunderstorm the powers-that-were (1950's??) decided to use 'TS'
rather than base it on the Beaufort letters for a thunderstorm 'tl'
(i.e. a mix of 't' for thunder heard & 'l' for lightning seen, thus
making 'TL'). Unfortunately we're stuck with it. However, often in
operational use, the 'TS' for tropical storm has been written as
'T/S' which could be a work-around within the newsgroup.

(From an old book I have dated 1938, in the US, the abbreviation for a
thunderstorm when transmitted on a teleprinter was simply 'T', with
qualifiers *after* the letter, thus a 'mild thunderstorm' was
transmitted as ' T- ', a 'severe thunderstorm' as 'T+'. In the same
section, the note " TORNADO: always (underlined) written out in full".


Interesting, Martin, thanks for that.
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