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Godalming, Surrey 1400 22/09/06


Actual
-------
Very heavy rain for last hour or more. Visibility poor. Drains
overflowing. Motor traffic slow, with marked bow-waves.

Some thunder.

Forecasts
-------------
'light rain' per BBC 5-day http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml also
from Met Office gor near0by Guildford

0.4mm at noon per Metcheck.com

Met Office warning of heavy rain for Midlands , Eastern Counties and
Yorks & Lincs


Really must look at the charts. Do they publish an explanation of how
actual differs from forecast?


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Peter Thomas wrote:
Godalming, Surrey 1400 22/09/06


Actual
-------
Very heavy rain for last hour or more. Visibility poor. Drains
overflowing. Motor traffic slow, with marked bow-waves.

Some thunder.

Forecasts
-------------
'light rain' per BBC 5-day http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml
also from Met Office gor near0by Guildford

0.4mm at noon per Metcheck.com

Met Office warning of heavy rain for Midlands , Eastern Counties and
Yorks & Lincs


Really must look at the charts. Do they publish an explanation of how
actual differs from forecast?


The radar currently shows the heaviest rain to be over East Sussex and
Surrey; confirmed by this observation. The severe weather warningdoes not
seem reflect the actual position which is rather odd given that the
forecasters have access to high resolution images. Perhaps they expect the
rain to intensify even more as it moves north and they don't think it is
heavy enough to warrant a warning for Sussex and Suffolk..The European radar
image has been showing this heavy rain moving up from France for many hours
so it is not as if it ahs suddenly developed.

Alan


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Alan Gardiner wrote:
Peter Thomas wrote:
Godalming, Surrey 1400 22/09/06


Actual
-------
Very heavy rain for last hour or more. Visibility poor. Drains
overflowing. Motor traffic slow, with marked bow-waves.

Some thunder.

Forecasts
-------------
'light rain' per BBC 5-day http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml
also from Met Office gor near0by Guildford

0.4mm at noon per Metcheck.com

Met Office warning of heavy rain for Midlands , Eastern Counties and
Yorks & Lincs


Really must look at the charts. Do they publish an explanation of how
actual differs from forecast?


The radar currently shows the heaviest rain to be over East Sussex and
Surrey; confirmed by this observation. The severe weather warningdoes not
seem reflect the actual position which is rather odd given that the
forecasters have access to high resolution images. Perhaps they expect the
rain to intensify even more as it moves north and they don't think it is
heavy enough to warrant a warning for Sussex and Suffolk..The European radar
image has been showing this heavy rain moving up from France for many hours
so it is not as if it ahs suddenly developed.

Alan


There was a spell of very heavy rain (guess 20mm/hr) here just
after 1100Z and there is still light rain with moderate bursts at the
moment. The wind has increased considerably and is now S to SSW force
3-4. Not a very good forecast.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, NE Surrey, 556 ft.

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On 22 Sep 2006 07:04:03 -0700, "Tudor Hughes"
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Not a very good forecast.

Yes,here in Dorset we had a few showers close to 0800 and I had a
quick look at the radar at about that time recalling a radio forecast
of some showers. So I was quite suprised to look at the radar again
about noon and saw a large area of moderate echoes, with us on the
west edge. We got 6.3mm and some heavy bursts too from this French
export No umbrella at work so moved around using a large cardboard box
as cover.Useful but got the usual grins from colleagues
I think a wave got its act together rather quicker than expected - and
of course up came the Warnings at about 1230 ish for areas to our
north east.
The air has cleared now and nice and sunny. I had painted the back
door outside but wisely left it open to dry.
R



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Tudor Hughes wrote:
Alan Gardiner wrote:
Peter Thomas wrote:
Godalming, Surrey 1400 22/09/06


Actual
-------
Very heavy rain for last hour or more. Visibility poor. Drains
overflowing. Motor traffic slow, with marked bow-waves.

Some thunder.

Forecasts
-------------
'light rain' per BBC 5-day http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml
also from Met Office gor near0by Guildford

0.4mm at noon per Metcheck.com

Met Office warning of heavy rain for Midlands , Eastern Counties and
Yorks & Lincs


Really must look at the charts. Do they publish an explanation of
how actual differs from forecast?


The radar currently shows the heaviest rain to be over East Sussex
and Surrey; confirmed by this observation. The severe weather
warningdoes not seem reflect the actual position which is rather odd
given that the forecasters have access to high resolution images.
Perhaps they expect the rain to intensify even more as it moves
north and they don't think it is heavy enough to warrant a warning
for Sussex and Suffolk..The European radar image has been showing
this heavy rain moving up from France for many hours so it is not as
if it ahs suddenly developed.

Alan


There was a spell of very heavy rain (guess 20mm/hr) here just
after 1100Z and there is still light rain with moderate bursts at the
moment. The wind has increased considerably and is now S to SSW force
3-4. Not a very good forecast.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, NE Surrey, 556 ft.


It's torrential here in St Albans at 1530, rain rate over 60mm /hr and the
daily total is now 20mm (including 4mm overnight).


Alan Gardiner
Chiswell Green, St Albans




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On 22 Sep 2006 07:04:03 -0700, "Tudor Hughes"
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Not a very good forecast.

Yes,here in Dorset we had a few showers close to 0800 and I had a
quick look at the radar at about that time recalling a radio forecast
of some showers. So I was quite suprised to look at the radar again
about noon and saw a large area of moderate echoes, with us on the
west edge. We got 6.3mm and some heavy bursts too from this French
export No umbrella at work so moved around using a large cardboard box
as cover.Useful but got the usual grins from colleagues
I think a wave got its act together rather quicker than expected - and
of course up came the Warnings at about 1230 ish for areas to our
north east.
The air has cleared now and nice and sunny. I had painted the back
door outside but wisely left it open to dry.
R


Robin, you have to learn that the best Met. men *always* get caught out in the
weather. Par for the course, badge of honour etc :-)

Will.
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I looked at the GFS yesterday and it certainly picked up the heavy rain
moving through today, surprised itcaught the Met Office out.

"Alan Gardiner" wrote in message
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Tudor Hughes wrote:
Alan Gardiner wrote:
Peter Thomas wrote:
Godalming, Surrey 1400 22/09/06


Actual
-------
Very heavy rain for last hour or more. Visibility poor. Drains
overflowing. Motor traffic slow, with marked bow-waves.

Some thunder.

Forecasts
-------------
'light rain' per BBC 5-day http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml
also from Met Office gor near0by Guildford

0.4mm at noon per Metcheck.com

Met Office warning of heavy rain for Midlands , Eastern Counties and
Yorks & Lincs


Really must look at the charts. Do they publish an explanation of
how actual differs from forecast?

The radar currently shows the heaviest rain to be over East Sussex
and Surrey; confirmed by this observation. The severe weather
warningdoes not seem reflect the actual position which is rather odd
given that the forecasters have access to high resolution images.
Perhaps they expect the rain to intensify even more as it moves
north and they don't think it is heavy enough to warrant a warning
for Sussex and Suffolk..The European radar image has been showing
this heavy rain moving up from France for many hours so it is not as
if it ahs suddenly developed.

Alan


There was a spell of very heavy rain (guess 20mm/hr) here just
after 1100Z and there is still light rain with moderate bursts at the
moment. The wind has increased considerably and is now S to SSW force
3-4. Not a very good forecast.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, NE Surrey, 556 ft.


It's torrential here in St Albans at 1530, rain rate over 60mm /hr and the
daily total is now 20mm (including 4mm overnight).


Alan Gardiner
Chiswell Green, St Albans




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Metcheck carried a weather warning for todays downpour.



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Godalming, Surrey 1400 22/09/06


Actual
-------
Very heavy rain for last hour or more. Visibility poor. Drains
overflowing. Motor traffic slow, with marked bow-waves.

Some thunder.

Forecasts
-------------
'light rain' per BBC 5-day http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml also
from Met Office gor near0by Guildford

0.4mm at noon per Metcheck.com

Met Office warning of heavy rain for Midlands , Eastern Counties and
Yorks & Lincs


Really must look at the charts. Do they publish an explanation of how
actual differs from forecast?


--
Peter Thomas





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