"Yannis" wrote in
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Snow has been falling since yesterday
night in Thessaloniki, while Athens should get its bit tomorrow
morning, too.

Enjoy, Yannis! Bloody global warming, eh!!

Richard

Richard Dixon wrote in message ...

:"Yannis" wrote in
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: Snow has been falling since yesterday
: night in Thessaloniki, while Athens should get its bit tomorrow
: morning, too.
:
:Enjoy, Yannis! Bloody global warming, eh!!

It is beginning to look as if Greece is going to have a snowier winter than
either the UK or the Low Countries for the 3rd year in a row.

Thessaloniki http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/LGTS.html 0°C;
snow; brisk NNW wind

Alexandroupoli http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/LGAL.html 0°C;
heavy snow; strong NNE wind

Colin Youngs
Brussels

"Colin Youngs" wrote in message
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Thessaloniki http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/LGTS.html 0°C;
snow; brisk NNW wind

Alexandroupoli http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/LGAL.html 0°C;
heavy snow; strong NNE wind

Furthermore, Ioannina had 8 consecutive days of falling and lying snow.
Alexandroupolis (and the prefecture of Evros in general) should see snow on
a daily basis until Saturday to say the least.

It is beginning to look as if Greece is going to have a snowier winter
than
either the UK or the Low Countries for the 3rd year in a row.

I'm really not too sure about that but I think I haven't been posting in
here until some 2.5 years ago, that would explain it:-)

Check conditions in the very centre of Thessaloniki from this webcam:
http://www.iama.gr/weather/image.jpg

and Trikala, in western Thessaly, from he
http://www.3kala.gr/live/webcam2.asp

(snow lying in both cities right now).

This webcam is from the NW suburbs of Athens and has a view to Mt Parnitha:
http://www.meteocam.gr/parnitha/ (should be interesting as of the morning)

ATB,

Yannis, SE Athens

The specific low isn't too widely spread over Europe, Keith. Lows
that
typically bring snow to us are quite restricted over and around
Greece
mainly. The typical setups for snow are

a) the advection of +ve vorticity southwards along the eastern banks
of an
anticyclone stalled somewhere over western or central Europe, causing

cyclogenesis over the Ionian or the Aegean and

b) cyclogenesis south of the Siberian high

I would imagine frosts in the UK are likely with both senarios (due
to night
time radiation cooling in the first case and, under circumstances,
due to
easterlies in the second case). I'm sure it would be interesting to
check
for possible tele-connection phenomena (if i'm using the correct
word)
between different pressure patterns around Europe.

Yannis, SE Athens
+8.5C, RH 88%, SLP 1005.6 hPa
an interesting 24h ahead

Are these cold outbreaks a normal feature of Greek weather in the
winter, Yannis? Or is it a more recent phenomenon associated with
strong westerlies over the Atlantic and high pressure over Europe? I
haven't studied it much myself, but Greek winters now look rather more
interesting than British ones. But I might find summer in Athens a bit
much. :-)

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

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Are these cold outbreaks a normal feature of Greek weather in the
winter, Yannis? Or is it a more recent phenomenon associated with
strong westerlies over the Atlantic and high pressure over Europe? I
haven't studied it much myself, but Greek winters now look rather more
interesting than British ones. But I might find summer in Athens a bit
much. :-)

Tudor, I guess that most of the things people in here know of greek
winters -or summers- derive from my posts -but I might be wrong.
I've always remembered snow falling at least once a year here in SE Athens
and I always remember myself being jealous of parts of the country further
north. My 13 years average for this site is 10.8 days of falling snow per
year (one snowflake seen to fall) but it's quite changeable from year to
year.
The north of the country -or even the highlands of Crete- are quite
different and snow is frequent; I guess it's just that it never reaches your
ears.

Yannis, SE Athens
+5.6C, RH 83%, SLP 1001.7 hPa, RA
(ppn should get wintry soon)

In article ,
Yannis writes:
The north of the country -or even the highlands of Crete- are quite
different and snow is frequent; I guess it's just that it never reaches your
ears.

If the snow reaches your ears then that's _deep_.
--
John Hall
"Think wrongly if you please,
but in all cases think for yourself."
Doris Lessing