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Local TV is claiming the Glasgow rainfall record for December has
already been broken - 10.3 inches. Is this correct? Not bad considering we aren't halfway through the month yet. |
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![]() "Paul C" wrote in message news ![]() Local TV is claiming the Glasgow rainfall record for December has already been broken - 10.3 inches. Is this correct? Not bad considering we aren't halfway through the month yet. Well, the November rainfall record there was smashed out of sight too. Let's have a look. http://www.climate-uk.com/monthly/0512.htm tells us that the previous record in the Renfrew/Abbotsinch/Bishopton series which began in 1921 was 261mm in 1999 ... a quick perusal of my current spreadsheet .... but this month up to 18z has had 241mm, so, no, not yet, but it's getting close. Maybe they are using a different rainfall series. Inveruglas (above the top end of Loch Lomond has had over 1100mm of rain in the last 40 days ... I'm not sure if I can have the statistics easily available but that sounds extremely unusual for such a period. StephenB may have some tables of max rainfall for different periods ... Stephen? Philip |
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On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 19:17:43 -0000, "Philip Eden"
philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote: Inveruglas (above the top end of Loch Lomond has had over 1100mm of rain in the last 40 days ... I'm not sure if I can have the statistics easily available but that sounds extremely unusual for such a period. My daughter's partner has obtained for me the last five weeks records for the power station at Inveruglas which I will have next Wednesday. Are you interested? I did say that if he wants something to eat the last five years would be better. -- Alan White Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland. Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/weather Some walks and treks:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/walks |
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![]() Philip Eden wrote: Inveruglas (above the top end of Loch Lomond has had over 1100mm of rain in the last 40 days ... I'm not sure if I can have the statistics easily available but that sounds extremely unusual for such a period. StephenB may have some tables of max rainfall for different periods ... Stephen? Philip The highest calendar month total I know of was 1436 mm at Llyn Llydaw in Snowdonia in October 1909 = 46 mm/day. True extremes of multi-day falls are almost impossible to come by, because of course most of the gauges in the really wet mountainous areas are monthly-read, but I am aware of 724 mm in 20 days 6-25 March 1981 at Waen Sychlwch in Dyfed (36 mm/day). Taking these two data points imply that 40 mm/day is certainly plausible in the wettest locations over a 40 day period = 1600 mm. Llyn Lydaw Average Annual Rainfall AAR is around 3300 mm, Waen Sychlwch around 2600 mm; there are spots with 4000 mm/year average. But the AAR at Inveruglas is 'only' around 2500-2600 mm, where 30 mm/day over 40 days is probably more realistic = 1200 mm. So yes, 1100 mm over 40 days must be running this quite close. Is there still a daily gauge or logger at Sloy Main Adit I wonder? That's about 30 per cent higher AAR than Inveruglas and might well be approaching 1500 mm in 40 days. The monthly gauges on the mountaintops will be still higher of course. Anyone have any contacts who could check? Stephen |
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![]() Philip Eden wrote: Inveruglas (above the top end of Loch Lomond has had over 1100mm of rain in the last 40 days ... I'm not sure if I can have the statistics easily available but that sounds extremely unusual for such a period. StephenB may have some tables of max rainfall for different periods ... Stephen? The highest calendar month total I know of was 1436 mm at Llyn Llydaw in Snowdonia in October 1909 = 46 mm/day. True extremes of multi-day falls are almost impossible to come by, because of course most of the gauges in the really wet mountainous areas are monthly-read, but I am aware of 724 mm in 20 days 6-25 March 1981 at Waen Sychlwch in Dyfed (36 mm/day). Taking these two data points imply that 40 mm/day is certainly plausible in the wettest locations over a 40 day period = 1600 mm. Llyn Lydaw Average Annual Rainfall AAR is around 3300 mm, Waen Sychlwch around 2600 mm; there are spots with 4000 mm/year average. But the AAR at Inveruglas is 'only' around 2500-2600 mm, where 30 mm/day over 40 days is probably more realistic = 1200 mm. So yes, 1100 mm over 40 days must be running this quite close. Is there still a daily gauge or logger at Sloy Main Adit I wonder? That's about 30 per cent higher AAR than Inveruglas and might well be approaching 1500 mm in 40 days. The monthly gauges on the mountaintops will be still higher of course. Anyone have any contacts who could check? Stephen |
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![]() "Alan White" wrote in message ... On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 19:17:43 -0000, "Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote: Inveruglas (above the top end of Loch Lomond has had over 1100mm of rain in the last 40 days ... I'm not sure if I can have the statistics easily available but that sounds extremely unusual for such a period. My daughter's partner has obtained for me the last five weeks records for the power station at Inveruglas which I will have next Wednesday. It would be very interesting to see how they match up. Thanks, Alan. I did say that if he wants something to eat the last five years would be better. Or, indeed, get them to post the figures on their website, if they have one! Philip |
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On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 10:08:31 -0000, "Philip Eden"
philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote: It would be very interesting to see how they match up. Thanks, Alan. :-) Or, indeed, get them to post the figures on their website, if they have one! David has offered us a 'works visit' so I'll pursue that then. -- Alan White Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland. Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/weather Some walks and treks:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/walks |
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