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Well, ever since the winter of 1988-9 they have never been the same.

The last time we had a significant snowfall in Teignmouth, which didn't
melt within a few hours was March 1987.

Kids will soon grow up never seeing a flake of snow in this part of the
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Well, ever since the winter of 1988-9 they have never been the same.

The last time we had a significant snowfall in Teignmouth, which didn't
melt within a few hours was March 1987.

Kids will soon grow up never seeing a flake of snow in this part of the
world.


Well living in Teignmouth, it's only a short drive up to 400m asl on Hay Tor.
Plenty of chance to see snow here!
The kids I feel sorry for are those living in the London suburbs, they are miles
from any high ground and with the urban heat island it is a double whammy! At
least also in Teignmouth you have Haldon Hill (270m asl?) within walking
distance on which I have seen a snow cover for past 4 years at some stage in the
winter!

Will (Haytor, Devon, 310m asl)
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My lad (5.5 years old) said to me last week "what does snow look like
when it falls". Rather sad I thought...

Richard.

Dartington, South Hams


Kids will soon grow up never seeing a flake of snow in this part of the
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On Dec 23, 8:14 pm, "Richard Orrell"
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My lad (5.5 years old) said to me last week "what does snow look like
when it falls". Rather sad I thought...

Richard.

Dartington, South Hams


My father was a teacher whose first post was in Torquay in about
1923. He said that there were children there who had never seen snow.
In those days they would have travelled much less, of course, but maybe
things haven't changed as much as is sometimes supposed.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

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Tudor Hughes wrote:

My father was a teacher whose first post was in Torquay in about
1923. He said that there were children there who had never seen snow.
In those days they would have travelled much less, of course, but maybe
things haven't changed as much as is sometimes supposed.


I grew up in west Cornwall in the late 50's/60's, an area around 2C
warmer than Torquay in winter. A snow cover occured at some time in the
majority of winters at that time. I remember walking on the ice across
ponds which have never even frozen over since the early 90's. I would
say there has been a very noticeable change, back up by figures which I
can dig out (after Christmas!) if you're interested.

Graham
Penzance



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On Dec 23, 8:14 pm, "Richard Orrell"
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My lad (5.5 years old) said to me last week "what does snow look like
when it falls". Rather sad I thought...

Richard.

Dartington, South Hams


My father was a teacher whose first post was in Torquay in about
1923. He said that there were children there who had never seen snow.
In those days they would have travelled much less, of course, but maybe
things haven't changed as much as is sometimes supposed.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.


You're probably right Tudor. When I first moved down here in 2002 I joined a
badminton club in Torquay and they asked where I lived. When I said Haytor, they
said "you live in the clouds and you get snow in winter, don't get the white
stuff in Torquay".

Will
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In those days they would have travelled much less, of course, but maybe
things haven't changed as much as is sometimes supposed.


I think there has been a huge difference, even in my 'short' lifetime
between the winters of today and yester-year.

I asked my neighbour who used to work on the highways about the winters here
in south Devon and he said snow was once common in the Otter Valley, most
winters. He used to man the snow-blowers that would keep the lanes open so
the villages wouldn't get cut-off. They would be used at least once or twice
every winter. He said the last time they were used was 1978.

To give you an idea on how much snow used to fall, he said the biggest
problem with the snow wasn't the depth, it was people abandoning cars that
had got stuck in the lanes and snow covering them, the snow-blowers would
frequently collide with a hidden car.

Using my own figures from Worcester, the last time the temperature went
below -10C was Feb 1991. It frequently went that low for short spells most
winters. The coldest I had recorded since then was -7.4C (March 2004) and
that was exceptional as temperatures since the early 90s have struggled to
fall as low as -5C.
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Nick G wrote:

In those days they would have travelled much less, of course, but maybe
things haven't changed as much as is sometimes supposed.


I think there has been a huge difference, even in my 'short' lifetime
between the winters of today and yester-year.

I asked my neighbour who used to work on the highways about the winters here
in south Devon and he said snow was once common in the Otter Valley, most
winters. He used to man the snow-blowers that would keep the lanes open so
the villages wouldn't get cut-off. They would be used at least once or twice
every winter. He said the last time they were used was 1978.


Just checked & the average temperatures in January, February were
almost a degree warmer in both Penzance & Newquay in 1990s compared
with 1960s (& this decade is warmer again. (The 1961-1990 averages were
also higher than the 1931-60 averages).

I lived out at Sennen & went to school for 6 years in Penzance. During
that time there were several occasions when we were sent home from
school because of snow, on one occasion we had to walk the last 4
miles. Although the snow never lasted here, it could be very heavy for
a while on a SE gale. These sort of conditions have given rain/sleet in
the last 15 years or so. The last really heavy snow back in Jan 1987.

Graham
Penzance

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