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This morning temperature rocketed up to 7.8 C by 1130 in warm sunshine, but now at 1430 it is back down to +3.0 with recent showers of sleet. Definitely colder feel to air now with dewpoint of +0.8C. So now 3 days of sleet falling this winter but still no snow yet which is quite amazing for these parts. Will. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A COL BH site in East Dartmoor at Haytor, Devon 310m asl (1017 feet). mailto: www: http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm DISCLAIMER - All views and opinions expressed by myself are personal and do not necessarily represent those of my employer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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This morning temperature rocketed up to 7.8 C by 1130 in warm sunshine,
but now at 1430 it is back down to +3.0 with recent showers of sleet. Temperature here reached 10.2C at 11:34 this morning in the warm sunshine but as you say Will, it is very different story now with threatening skies and the odd spot of rain (no sleet here) and the temperature has plummeted! At least the wind has died down after the gales last night, this will help the salvage of the Napoli at Branscombe. Such a beautiful place, and one my favourite swimming beaches. Currently at 14:50, 6.2C, RH 69%, DP 0.9C, 1015.4 mb (R), Wind 14.0 mph WSW gusting 21.9 mph, 3.09 hours' sunshine so far today. ________________ Nick G Otter Valley, Devon 83 m amsl http://www.ottervalley.co.uk |
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![]() Nick G wrote: Temperature here reached 10.2C at 11:34 this morning in the warm sunshine 10.3C Max in Penzance, but with the wind it didn't feel it. At least the wind has died down after the gales last night, this will help the salvage of the Napoli at Branscombe. Such a beautiful place, and one my favourite swimming beaches. Why wasn't it towed into Falmouth? When you look at the recent wrecks like within a few miles of me including the Cita (Scilly 1997) which charged into the Islands taking a short cut, Mulheim (Sennen March 2003) a similar event (all asleep?), The Dolphyn, Mousehole 2001 (taking a short cut inside St. Clements Isle) right back to the Union Star (why was offer of a tug refused), they all seem somewhat unnecessary. Large parts of the Mulheim are still visible and rubbish from the wreck is still washed up on Gwenver in particular (see http://surfcore.co.uk/node/370 ) Also see www.penwith.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=7672 regarding The Dolphyn. I wouldn't rely on the salvage crews doing much of a tidy up. Graham Penzance Currently at 14:50, 6.2C, RH 69%, DP 0.9C, 1015.4 mb (R), Wind 14.0 mph WSW gusting 21.9 mph, 3.09 hours' sunshine so far today. ________________ Nick G Otter Valley, Devon 83 m amsl http://www.ottervalley.co.uk |
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Graham
Why wasn't it towed into Falmouth? I would like to know why as well. An oil slick has formed and the ship looks like it may capsize at any moment which would result in an unbelievable amount of pollution. The coastline where the ship has ran aground (deliberately) is a SSSI and a World Heritage Site. It is unique in the world and has some very special, and very sensitive habitats due to the way how marine life has colonised the soft Triassic sandstone beds. Did they deliberately run the ship on the beach in a bid to save the cargo and didn't give a monkey's for the environment? ________________ Nick G Otter Valley, Devon 83 m amsl http://www.ottervalley.co.uk |
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![]() MCC wrote: Graham Easterling wrote: Why wasn't it towed into Falmouth? Ample ship repair facilities in Falmouth but very limited cargo handling capabilities and certainly no container handling whatsoever. -- MCC But there is deep safe water and plenty of room. The ship was holed and whatever the lack of facilities in Falmouth it would have been a lot easier & safer sorting things out there than where the ship is now. After all the fact that the crew abandoned ship demonstrated how precarious the position was. Graham Penzance |
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Graham
I think the whole saga of the Napoli has been one mistake after another. The boat wasn't safe (dodgy repairs after previous grounding) yet was certified as safe (something odd going on there). It should have been towed to Falmouth where it could have been dealt with but instead they were more concerned about the cargo so they decided to tow it to Portland even though the weather was forecast to be bad. They knew the structure was in poor shape. What a balls up. The look on the face of guy in-charge of this fiasco said it all. This reminds me of the ship that leaked a load of oil at Milford Haven a few years back, that was preventable but incompetence lead to a large oil slick. Now what is going to happen if the boat capsizes and 1000s of tonnes of cargo get mashed up and for the next 5 years will be polluting/littering the beaches. I can just imagine what the tourists are going to think when little Johnny picks up a container full of battery acid this summer. Are they just going to leave the boat there to break-up once they salvaged the cargo. What a blot on the landscape of one of the most special stretches of coastline in the world. The whole sorry episode is a disgrace and seeing a red-throated diver on TV covered in oil just shows our contempt for the environment. ________________ Nick G Otter Valley, Devon 83 m amsl http://www.ottervalley.co.uk |
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![]() Nick G wrote: Graham Did they deliberately run the ship on the beach in a bid to save the cargo and didn't give a monkey's for the environment? Whoever took this decision to beach the cargo ship in a World Heritage Site, and area that relies heavily on tourism, should have their head hanged in sham, and also prosecuted. I cannot understand why they chose this site, other than their insurance company dictating that they minimalism any financial loss. We must understand that we don't own this planet; we only share it with all the other creatures that inhabit this planet. It would have been less damaging to the environment to tow the ship out into the deep waters of the Atlantic, once the storms had abated, and then scupper the ship. But finance rules this world? |
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![]() Bonos Ego wrote: I cannot understand why they chose this site, other than their insurance company dictating that they minimalism any financial loss. I strongly recommend you read 'Penlee - Loss of a Lifeboat' by Mike Sagar Fenton http://www.michaelsagar-fenton.co.uk...d=2&PagesId=28 (available at Amazon) Apart from being a very sad story, the fact that offers of a tug were refused, for financial reasons, until it was far too late is rather disturbing to say the least. (Although the law has changed to force owners to accept a tow if it is thought essential) The same sort of arguments over responsibility & cost often mean that little is done to clear up the mess afterwards. Also, the government has seen fit to close most coastguard stations, luckily the voluntary sector ( www.nci.org.uk/what_is_national_coas****ch.htm ) has stepped in to help fill the gap. Graham Penzance |
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On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:53:21 -0000, "Nick G"
wrote: Temperature here reached 10.2C at 11:34 this morning in the warm sunshine but as you say Will, it is very different story now with threatening skies and the odd spot of rain (no sleet here) and the temperature has plummeted! I was underground today and when I surfaced at Priddy the car gizmo showed 9C - and it really felt very pleasant indeed out of the breeze. There was a lot of water flowing into Swildons Hole and that was a bit chilly it must be said. R |
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