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From the 'Radio Times'
Thursday 8th March Time 2100 - 2235 Channel 4 "The Great Global Warming Swindle" " The prevailing global-warming view is that man-made emissions of carbon dioxide are largely responsible. This film, featuring leading academics ..... questions the science behind the accepted reasons for global warming and argues that other explanations - including the effect of the sun's radiation on the atmosphere - are not being properly aired." Martin. -- Martin Rowley Bracknell |
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In message , Martin Rowley
m writes From the 'Radio Times' Thursday 8th March Time 2100 - 2235 Channel 4 "The Great Global Warming Swindle" " The prevailing global-warming view is that man-made emissions of carbon dioxide are largely responsible. This film, featuring leading academics ..... questions the science behind the accepted reasons for global warming and argues that other explanations - including the effect of the sun's radiation on the atmosphere - are not being properly aired." Martin. Thanks Martin. Since 'giving up' winter in 2002 I look forwards to another view. Even in my saddest dreams I never thought we would see winters this bad snow-wise. Cheers Paul -- 'Wisest are they that know they do not know.' Socrates. Paul Bartlett FRMetS www.rutnet.co.uk Go to local weather. 400FT AMSL 25Miles southwest of the Wash |
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![]() "Martin Rowley" m wrote in message ... From the 'Radio Times' Thursday 8th March Time 2100 - 2235 Channel 4 "The Great Global Warming Swindle" " The prevailing global-warming view is that man-made emissions of carbon dioxide are largely responsible. This film, featuring leading academics ..... questions the science behind the accepted reasons for global warming and argues that other explanations - including the effect of the sun's radiation on the atmosphere - are not being properly aired." Martin. Sounds interesting. Cheers Martin. It will be nice to hear things other than "The Mantra" :-) Hope it's good science though? Will. -- |
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Will Hand wrote:
"Martin Rowley" m wrote in message ... From the 'Radio Times' Thursday 8th March Time 2100 - 2235 Channel 4 "The Great Global Warming Swindle" " The prevailing global-warming view is that man-made emissions of carbon dioxide are largely responsible. This film, featuring leading academics ..... questions the science behind the accepted reasons for global warming and argues that other explanations - including the effect of the sun's radiation on the atmosphere - are not being properly aired." Martin. Sounds interesting. Cheers Martin. It will be nice to hear things other than "The Mantra" :-) Hope it's good science though? On ITV-1 at the same time is "Bonkers". Sums up my expectations. -- Graham P Davis Bracknell, Berks., UK Send e-mails to "newsman" as mails to "newsboy" are ignored. |
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![]() Will Hand wrote: "Martin Rowley" m wrote in message ... From the 'Radio Times' Thursday 8th March Time 2100 - 2235 Channel 4 "The Great Global Warming Swindle" " The prevailing global-warming view is that man-made emissions of carbon dioxide are largely responsible. This film, featuring leading academics ..... questions the science behind the accepted reasons for global warming and argues that other explanations - including the effect of the sun's radiation on the atmosphere - are not being properly aired." Martin. Sounds interesting. Cheers Martin. It will be nice to hear things other than "The Mantra" :-) Hope it's good science though? Will. I just hope they present all of the evidence and not leave out facts that do not support their case. Unfortunately this rarely happens in programmes of this kind. Alan |
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Alan Gardiner wrote:
Will Hand wrote: "Martin Rowley" m wrote in message ... From the 'Radio Times' Thursday 8th March Time 2100 - 2235 Channel 4 "The Great Global Warming Swindle" " The prevailing global-warming view is that man-made emissions of carbon dioxide are largely responsible. This film, featuring leading academics ..... questions the science behind the accepted reasons for global warming and argues that other explanations - including the effect of the sun's radiation on the atmosphere - are not being properly aired." Martin. Sounds interesting. Cheers Martin. It will be nice to hear things other than "The Mantra" :-) Hope it's good science though? Will. I just hope they present all of the evidence and not leave out facts that do not support their case. Unfortunately this rarely happens in programmes of this kind. Before the first-ever Equinox programme, the makers said that they would be different from Horizon in that they would not aim to be even-handed. The obvious bias in the first program - which was also against AGW - clearly demonstrated their success. I've never seen the point of watching Equinox since. Mind you, I also rarely watch Horizon as I think it would be better located on the CBeebies channel. At least the Equinox programmers were honest in their deception, much like the owner of the Sport newspaper who admitted most of the stories in the paper were lies. -- Graham P Davis Bracknell, Berks., UK Send e-mails to "newsman" as mails to "newsboy" are ignored. |
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Martin Rowley wrote:
From the 'Radio Times' Thursday 8th March Time 2100 - 2235 Channel 4 "The Great Global Warming Swindle" " The prevailing global-warming view is that man-made emissions of carbon dioxide are largely responsible. This film, featuring leading academics ..... questions the science behind the accepted reasons for global warming and argues that other explanations - including the effect of the sun's radiation on the atmosphere - are not being properly aired." Martin. Thanks for the advance notice, Martin. I shall make a note to ensure I do not miss it. I shall wait until I have seen it before passing judgement, rather than criticise it in advance! I would however not expect them to present 'both sides of the argument' as the point of the programme seems to be to present the 'other side' (climate change) which is usually happily ignored by AGW broadcasts. -- Gianna http://www.buchan-meteo.org.uk * * * * * * * |
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![]() Gianna wrote: Martin Rowley wrote: From the 'Radio Times' Thursday 8th March Time 2100 - 2235 Channel 4 "The Great Global Warming Swindle" " The prevailing global-warming view is that man-made emissions of carbon dioxide are largely responsible. This film, featuring leading academics ..... questions the science behind the accepted reasons for global warming and argues that other explanations - including the effect of the sun's radiation on the atmosphere - are not being properly aired." Martin. Thanks for the advance notice, Martin. I shall make a note to ensure I do not miss it. I shall wait until I have seen it before passing judgement, rather than criticise it in advance! I would however not expect them to present 'both sides of the argument' as the point of the programme seems to be to present the 'other side' (climate change) which is usually happily ignored by AGW broadcasts. I don't think they are denying climate change but saying that man-made CO2 is not the main cause. That is fine with me as long as the facts they use to support their case acuially represent the true position. I get annoyed when, for example, someone staes that becasue glacier X is getting bigger the climate is not warming up and toatlly ignoring the fact that galciers A to W inclusive have shrunk. This is an extreme example but if they can make their case without resorting to such tactics it will be far more credible. Alan |
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Alan Gardiner wrote:
Gianna wrote: Martin Rowley wrote: From the 'Radio Times' Thursday 8th March Time 2100 - 2235 Channel 4 "The Great Global Warming Swindle" " The prevailing global-warming view is that man-made emissions of carbon dioxide are largely responsible. This film, featuring leading academics ..... questions the science behind the accepted reasons for global warming and argues that other explanations - including the effect of the sun's radiation on the atmosphere - are not being properly aired." Martin. Thanks for the advance notice, Martin. I shall make a note to ensure I do not miss it. I shall wait until I have seen it before passing judgement, rather than criticise it in advance! I would however not expect them to present 'both sides of the argument' as the point of the programme seems to be to present the 'other side' (climate change) which is usually happily ignored by AGW broadcasts. I don't think they are denying climate change but saying that man-made CO2 is not the main cause. That is fine with me as long as the facts they use to support their case acuially represent the true position. I know. That was my point. The programme looks to be about "Climate Change" as distinct from "man made global warming". Denying climate change is unsupportable. I get annoyed when, for example, someone staes that becasue glacier X is getting bigger the climate is not warming up and toatlly ignoring the fact that galciers A to W inclusive have shrunk. This is an extreme example but if they can make their case without resorting to such tactics it will be far more credible. Indeed. -- Gianna http://www.buchan-meteo.org.uk * * * * * * * |
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In message , Alan Gardiner
writes Gianna wrote: Martin Rowley wrote: From the 'Radio Times' Thursday 8th March Time 2100 - 2235 Channel 4 "The Great Global Warming Swindle" " The prevailing global-warming view is that man-made emissions of carbon dioxide are largely responsible. This film, featuring leading academics ..... questions the science behind the accepted reasons for global warming and argues that other explanations - including the effect of the sun's radiation on the atmosphere - are not being properly aired." Martin. Thanks for the advance notice, Martin. I shall make a note to ensure I do not miss it. I shall wait until I have seen it before passing judgement, rather than criticise it in advance! I would however not expect them to present 'both sides of the argument' as the point of the programme seems to be to present the 'other side' (climate change) which is usually happily ignored by AGW broadcasts. I don't think they are denying climate change but saying that man-made CO2 is not the main cause. That is fine with me as long as the facts they use to support their case acuially represent the true position. I get annoyed when, for example, someone staes that becasue glacier X is getting bigger the climate is not warming up and toatlly ignoring the fact that galciers A to W inclusive have shrunk. This is an extreme example but if they can make their case without resorting to such tactics it will be far more credible. Alan I assume that this is about the theory that solar activity modulates the cosmic ray influx which then changes the rate of production of cloud condensation nuclei which changes the amount of cloud cover which changes the global temperature. This was recently discussed on another newsgroup. The problem presented (by a working climatologist) with this theory is that it doesn't predict the observed chronological and geographical distribution of warming; greenhouse warming is predicted to be greater at high latitudes, in winter, and at night, which matches observations. This other theory should predict that warming is greater during the day (because the warming is due to a reduction in cloud cover). -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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