Thank you Ian for your response.

Now please explain:

"January 05
AN AVERAGE OR SLIGHT BELOW PAR MONTH FOR TEMPERATURE. A cold start and
some sharp frosts mid month and quite a few slight frosts as high
pressure prevails and rain below average."

?

We were about a full 2°C ABOVE normal, were we not?:-o :-(

D.

LOL, only Damien has the balls to ask the master
still no word from the organ ginder TP

LOL, only Damien has the balls to ask the master
still no word from the organ grinder TP

still no word from the organ grinder TP

I don't have any money on it, either.:-(

D.

I watched the direction of the clouds during Sunday and Sunday night.

North-westerly direction throughout, never veering around to the north

No doubt the strong winds add a wind-chill outside, but the temps were
never that low.

Could not even manage a sleet shower

I call a north-westerly 'cool' now for both summer and winter months.
Opened the window last night, the room got aired, and the breeze
flowing into the room felt cool, but not icy cold

If they say "bitterly cold" on the tv forecasts, i'll just laugh

I have long thought that it is becoming increasingly difficult to get snow
in a 'northerly' situation on low ground in southern England.With max around
6 - 7 c in an airstream from the arctic in February ( when the arctic is at
its coldest) the evidence speaks for itself. A look at my diary for 1978
shows that on 10 and 11 April in a northerly and despite strong sunshine
( especially on the 11th), I had a max of 6.0c on both days.This is lower
than in the present northerly. There were heavy snow showers on the 10th
April 1978.
With the decrease in the arctic sea ice and rising sea temperatures to the
north of Britain the decline in snowy northerlies in the south is not
surprising.
Peter Clarke
Ewell 55m
"Ian Currie" wrote in message
. uk...
In spite of the general public feeling very chilly out and about today as
the wind was strong and it was around 5C or 6C early afternoon in many
places below 100 metres, it was relatively mild for a north westerly or
northerly airstream in virtually mid February. Today would almost
certainly
have been several degrees colder given a similar situation in Victorian
times and for that matter the 1950s and 1960s. A max of 3C would have been
expected. Even now at 20.00hrs the mercury has risen and is 5C. The
trajectory of the air flow these days has a more westerly component and
seems to me to have backed about 30 degrees compared to bursts of cold in
the 1950s. Good examples I can cite and there were more are the third week
of Jan 1952 and around the 12th in Feb; mid Feb1953 and mid Feb 1955.; the
7th Feb 1958 and late Feb 1958, and mid Jan 1959. Feb 1956 was mostly
north
easterly with its severe cold.
I
Still it proved quite a shock for many people after a max of 12C the
previous day and even more so for those in the vicinity of the Downs in
the
Reigate area where snow lay 1 to 2cm deep around 08.00hrs this
morning.However it had melted by mid morning even at 230 metres.

Ian Currie-Coulsdon.

In article ,
John Hall writes:
In article ,
Succorso writes:
Depressing isn't it? This has happened soooo many times now, it can't
just be a "chance" happening - it really is warmer now, and those
Northerlies we used to have that delivered reliable snow at 0c, now
deliver sleet, hail and rain at 4 to 6c.
snip

I guess that's what you'd expect if the ice edge is further north than
it used to be, and if the sea to the south of it is a degree or two
warmer.

I should add that, even in the 1960s, my memories of northerlies are
that - in the south - maxima were commonly about 2-3C, and that maxima
as low as 0C were more associated with easterlies.
--
John Hall "George the Third
Ought never to have occurred.
One can only wonder
At so grotesque a blunder." E.C.Bentley (1875-1956)

If they say "bitterly cold" on the tv forecasts, i'll just laugh

Maybe the reason why this has now become the weatherman's "fad", as it
were, is because the Met Office have now officially upgraded to the
1971-2000 average, haven't they?

If that's so, then what was once "mild" or "average" is now, sadly,
always going to be "cold".:-(

I am dreading 2014....:-( :-(

Yet, still, Tom Presutti, Gavin, and co., went for a SEVERE winter in
2002, accumulating around January-February time.:-( ;-(

D.