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I was very surprised that the haze didn't get a mention on the Radio 4
forecasts this morning given that it is, and has been, so thick, so widespread and so persistent across most of the country. The impression given by the forecasts was that some parts would have fog at first but once that had burnt off there would be bright sunshine but with some showers developing in the west.. In reality, if the past couple of days are anything to go by, there'll be hazy sun from a milky sky and below 30 deg elevation the sky will be a dirty brown colour. A very good example of what it looks like in NW Scotland can be seen on one of the webcams on Skye at http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/smo/dealbha...in/english.php The view in good visibility can be seen by clicking on "More information and options". Norman (delete "thisbit" twice to e-mail) -- Norman Lynagh Weather Consultancy Chalfont St Giles 85m a.s.l. England |
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On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:03:09 GMT, Norman Lynagh wrote in
I was very surprised that the haze didn't get a mention on the Radio 4 forecasts this morning given that it is, and has been, so thick, so widespread and so persistent across most of the country. The impression given by the forecasts was that some parts would have fog at first but once that had burnt off there would be bright sunshine but with some showers developing in the west.. In reality, if the past couple of days are anything to go by, there'll be hazy sun from a milky sky and below 30 deg elevation the sky will be a dirty brown colour. A very good example of what it looks like in NW Scotland can be seen on one of the webcams on Skye at http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/smo/dealbha...in/english.php The view in good visibility can be seen by clicking on "More information and options". I'm also surprised there's been no mention of just how dirty/hazy the air has been for the last few days, with the easterly airflow. Normally, even at sunset, it is impossible to stare directly at the sun, yet recently that was possible when it was as high as 20 degrees. You rightly refer to the brown colour of the sky as well as the deep red of the sun near sunset. -- Mike Tullett - Coleraine 55.13°N 6.69°W posted 28/03/2007 08:26:50 GMT |
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On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:03:09 GMT, Norman Lynagh
wrote: A very good example of what it looks like in NW Scotland can be seen on one of the webcams on Skye Similar here, Norman, but not as bad. If you look at our web cam history, http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/camera/ you can see how the haze increased as yesterday progressed and it's even thicker this morning. -- Alan White Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent. Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland. Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/weather |
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Norman Lynagh wrote:
The view in good visibility can be seen by clicking on "More information and options". Norman (delete "thisbit" twice to e-mail) This dirty brown soup is plainly obvious in a shot taken by my webcam yesterday afternoon, normally this view when clear looks dark blue fading to pale blue! For easterlies it's a bit odd as this is what you would sometimes expect in dusty Saharan southerlies. Can't find no reports of forest fires, exploding chemical plants in Russia or any incidents in Europe that may possibly account for all of this murk. http://llandru.servehttp.com/ispy4446.jpg The haze and strange light shows in this pic too but not as obvious, was wandering around our local park during a break from work yesterday... http://llandru.servehttp.com/img_0633.jpg Les |
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Mike Tullett wrote:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:03:09 GMT, Norman Lynagh wrote in I was very surprised that the haze didn't get a mention on the Radio 4 forecasts this morning given that it is, and has been, so thick, so widespread and so persistent across most of the country. The impression given by the forecasts was that some parts would have fog at first but once that had burnt off there would be bright sunshine but with some showers developing in the west.. In reality, if the past couple of days are anything to go by, there'll be hazy sun from a milky sky and below 30 deg elevation the sky will be a dirty brown colour. A very good example of what it looks like in NW Scotland can be seen on one of the webcams on Skye at http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/smo/dealbha...in/english.php The view in good visibility can be seen by clicking on "More information and options". I'm also surprised there's been no mention of just how dirty/hazy the air has been for the last few days, with the easterly airflow. Normally, even at sunset, it is impossible to stare directly at the sun, yet recently that was possible when it was as high as 20 degrees. You rightly refer to the brown colour of the sky as well as the deep red of the sun near sunset. Makes for very good sunset photos. On Monday I was passing a local mosque in the evening, I wish I had my camera, it would have been a good quiz . Middle East or the UK? Joe Egginton Wolverhampton 175m asl |
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On Mar 28, 9:03 am, Norman Lynagh normanthis...@thisbitweather-
consultancy.com wrote: I was very surprised that the haze didn't get a mention on the Radio 4 forecasts this morning given that it is, and has been, so thick, so widespread and so persistent across most of the country. The impression given by the forecasts was that some parts would have fog at first but once that had burnt off there would be bright sunshine but with some showers developing in the west.. In reality, if the past couple of days are anything to go by, there'll be hazy sun from a milky sky and below 30 deg elevation the sky will be a dirty brown colour. A very good example of what it looks like in NW Scotland can be seen on one of the webcams on Skye at http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/smo/dealbha...in/english.php The view in good visibility can be seen by clicking on "More information and options". Norman (delete "thisbit" twice to e-mail) -- Norman Lynagh Weather Consultancy Chalfont St Giles 85m a.s.l. England The forecasters/presenters don't know properly what haze is, as we all know, so when the real thing turns up they don't recognise it. It is now (2.55 pm) very "dirty" here. There is some towering Cu but it is difficult to see either the bases or the edges due to the haze. The whole sky is a dirty orange-grey. Earlier, before the TCu build-up, the haze was higher and the sky so milky it was easy to mistake for Cs. In fact, for a few moments, I did. The whole appearance of the sky has been very summery. As I understand it the milky haze is caused by particles that are large relative to the wavelength of light and scatter all wavelengths more or less equally whereas the yellow-orange-brown colour is due to smaller particles (1 micron?) which preferentially scatter the shorter wavelengths, leaving the red. I have no idea why the haze is so thick as its origin must be central Europe, not notably hot, dry and windy at this time of year. There was also the dusty rain a few days ago, probably from the same source. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, NE Surrey, 556 ft. |
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Started to clear here at about 14:00 accompanied by a temperature drop
from 13.5°C to 10.0°C at 16:00. Currently, the clearest it's been for several days with visibility 12 kilometres. -- Alan White Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent. Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland. Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/weather |
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In message , Alan White
writes Started to clear here at about 14:00 accompanied by a temperature drop from 13.5°C to 10.0°C at 16:00. Currently, the clearest it's been for several days with visibility 12 kilometres. The Skye webcams show a dramatic clearance this afternoon as the Atlantic air pushed in, replacing the continental crud. Still very Middle Eastern skies down here in the south, though. Norman. (delete "thisbit" twice to e-mail) -- Norman Lynagh Weather Consultancy Chalfont St Giles 85m a.s.l. England |
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On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 18:04:04 GMT, Norman Lynagh
wrote: The Skye webcams show a dramatic clearance this afternoon as the Atlantic air pushed in, replacing the continental crud. I was having my afternoon doze... -- Alan White Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent. Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland. Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/weather |
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On Mar 28, 9:03 am, Norman Lynagh normanthis...@thisbitweather-
consultancy.com wrote: I was very surprised that the haze didn't get a mention on the Radio 4 forecasts this morning given that it is, and has been, so thick, so widespread and so persistent across most of the country. The impression given by the forecasts was that some parts would have fog at first but once that had burnt off there would be bright sunshine but with some showers developing in the west.. In reality, if the past couple of days are anything to go by, there'll be hazy sun from a milky sky and below 30 deg elevation the sky will be a dirty brown colour. A very good example of what it looks like in NW Scotland can be seen on one of the webcams on Skye at http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/smo/dealbha...in/english.php The view in good visibility can be seen by clicking on "More information and options". Norman (delete "thisbit" twice to e-mail) -- Norman Lynagh Weather Consultancy Chalfont St Giles 85m a.s.l. England Still very hazy here at 0025Z. Moon not very bright and quite yellow despite being high in the sky and no trace of high cloud round it. No stars visible at a casual glance Not a breath of wind. All rather exotic and summery - I like it. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey. |
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