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Meteosat 8 satellite picture from Ferdinand Valk's site at 12.00 UTC
on Sunday 15th April
http://www.fvalk.com/images/Day_imag...8-1200-EUR.jpg

NOAA 18 satellite picture from Bernard Burton's site at 13.56 UTC on
Sunday 15th April
http://www.woksat.info/etcpd15/pd15-1356-b-uk.html

Meteosat MSG-1 satellite picture from Bernard Burton's site at 12.00
UTC on Sunday 15th April
http://www.woksat.info/etcpd15m/pd15-msg-1200-uk.html

Cloudless over England and a large part of continental Europe;
frontal cloud encroaching on Scotland and Ireland; cloud also over SW
England and west Wales.


UK min. temps on Saturday night http://tinyurl.com/2cx6ow

Aboyne, Eskdalemuir and Linton-on-Ouse 4.3°C, Benson 4.1°C, Church
Fenton 3.7°C, Redesdale 3.6°C, Coningsby 3.5°C, Leeming 3.1°C,
Topcliffe 2.9°C, Leconfield 2.8°C.

Culdrose 11.0°C, South Uist and St Mawgan 11.3°C, Plymouth 11.9°C,
Belfast Aldergrove 12.0°C - 06.00 UTC synops only.


UK max. temps on Sunday http://tinyurl.com/2wvua3

Lerwick 11.8°C, Abeporth 12.1°C, Camborne 12.9°C, Tiree 13.2°C,
Valley 13.4°C - 18.00 UTC synops only.

Linton-on-Ouse and Gravesend 23.9°C, Great Malvern and Northolt
24.1°C, Bournemouth and Farnborough 24.5°C, London MO and Heathrow
24.7°C, Charlwood 25.1°C, Herstmonceux 26.5°C.

OGIMET summary http://tinyurl.com/33m3cy


Rainfall radar http://www.meteox.com/h.aspx?r=&soort=loop24uur&URL
or
http://www.meteo24.com/uk/index.php?q=radar

Some rain in Cornwall and Devon on Sunday morning. Rain moves across
NW Scotland during the afternoon and evening.

Rainfall totals http://tinyurl.com/3cgt5b

St Mawgan, Camborne, Cardinham and Culdrose 1 mm, Tiree, Stornoway
and Port Ellen on Islay 2 mm, Barra 3 mm, Aultbea, South Uist and
Lusa/Skye 4 mm.


Location of some UK stations http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/education/data/uk_map.html


Colin Youngs
Brussels


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In uk.sci.weather on Sun, 15 Apr 2007, Colin Youngs
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UK max. temps on Sunday http://tinyurl.com/2wvua3

Linton-on-Ouse and Gravesend 23.9°C, Great Malvern and Northolt
24.1°C, Bournemouth and Farnborough 24.5°C, London MO and Heathrow
24.7°C, Charlwood 25.1°C, Herstmonceux 26.5°C.


I wonder if anywhere, as yet unchecked, will have reached 80F?
--
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"Paul Hyett" wrote:
In uk.sci.weather on Sun, 15 Apr 2007, Colin Youngs
wrote :

UK max. temps on Sunday http://tinyurl.com/2wvua3

Linton-on-Ouse and Gravesend 23.9°C, Great Malvern and Northolt
24.1°C, Bournemouth and Farnborough 24.5°C, London MO and Heathrow
24.7°C, Charlwood 25.1°C, Herstmonceux 26.5°C.


I wonder if anywhere, as yet unchecked, will have reached 80F?
--

Yes ... 26.7 at Southampton National Oceanography Centre,
but as I and others have said we are not sure of the location
of the temperatures sensors. If it is a rooftop site then it will not
count.

Philip


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UK max. temps on Sunday http://tinyurl.com/2wvua3

Lerwick 11.8°C, Abeporth 12.1°C, Camborne 12.9°C,


Camborne often concerns me. I commented on some very low maxima last
year when Camborne managed to be the coldest in the country for 2
consecutive days, when it was warm & sunny in Pz. I could see the TV
mast behind Camborne glinting in the sunshine, so it certainly wasn't
in fog all day.

Today Camborne's been around 3C colder than St Mawgan much of the day.
It's been rather misty along the north coast but looking at the
surfcams it's appeared duller at Newquay than in St Ives Bay.
http://217.41.30.123/password?id=staff&pwd=staff

Considering St. Mawgan's exposed cliff top position I would have
expected Camborne to be a degree or so higher if anything. It was also
5C colder than the equally exposed Culdrose at times. OK, Culdrose was
fairly clear of any mistiness, but I've sometimes seen even greater
differences when there's been no obvious reason.

Graham
Penzance

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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 08:49:41 +0100, "Philip Eden"
philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote:

"Paul Hyett" wrote:
In uk.sci.weather on Sun, 15 Apr 2007, Colin Youngs
wrote :

UK max. temps on Sunday http://tinyurl.com/2wvua3

Linton-on-Ouse and Gravesend 23.9°C, Great Malvern and Northolt
24.1°C, Bournemouth and Farnborough 24.5°C, London MO and Heathrow
24.7°C, Charlwood 25.1°C, Herstmonceux 26.5°C.


I wonder if anywhere, as yet unchecked, will have reached 80F?
--

Yes ... 26.7 at Southampton National Oceanography Centre,
but as I and others have said we are not sure of the location
of the temperatures sensors. If it is a rooftop site then it will not
count.

Subsequently adjusted, according to the Met Office website, to 26.6
deg C. It's almost as if someone down Exeter way has read this thread
and decided that the site's a bit too dodgy to let it have that magic
first 80 degrees F of the year.

I am endeavouring to find out the site details of the Climatological
station at the NOC and I will report back if I make any progress; the
person I need to speak to there is currently away from the office but
if anyne else out there knows the answer, please let us know! My
inclination currently is that it will turn out to be a rooftop or
mast mounted AWS but we shall see.

--
Dave


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"Dave Ludlow" wrote in
message ...
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 08:49:41 +0100, "Philip Eden"
philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote:

"Paul Hyett" wrote:
In uk.sci.weather on Sun, 15 Apr 2007, Colin Youngs
wrote :

UK max. temps on Sunday http://tinyurl.com/2wvua3

Linton-on-Ouse and Gravesend 23.9°C, Great Malvern and
Northolt
24.1°C, Bournemouth and Farnborough 24.5°C, London MO and
Heathrow
24.7°C, Charlwood 25.1°C, Herstmonceux 26.5°C.

I wonder if anywhere, as yet unchecked, will have reached 80F?
--

Yes ... 26.7 at Southampton National Oceanography Centre,
but as I and others have said we are not sure of the location
of the temperatures sensors. If it is a rooftop site then it
will not
count.

Subsequently adjusted, according to the Met Office website, to
26.6
deg C. It's almost as if someone down Exeter way has read this
thread
and decided that the site's a bit too dodgy to let it have that
magic
first 80 degrees F of the year.

I am endeavouring to find out the site details of the
Climatological
station at the NOC and I will report back if I make any
progress; the
person I need to speak to there is currently away from the
office but
if anyne else out there knows the answer, please let us know! My
inclination currently is that it will turn out to be a rooftop
or
mast mounted AWS but we shall see.

Dave, it would be interesting to know if there's anything left in
Mayflower Park too. The climat station stopped appearing in the
MWR decades ago, but you never know, the city council may
have installed their own AWS.

Philip


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On Apr 17, 1:44 am, Dave Ludlow
wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 08:49:41 +0100, "Philip Eden"





philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote:
"Paul Hyett" wrote:
In uk.sci.weather on Sun, 15 Apr 2007, Colin Youngs
wrote :


UK max. temps on Sunday http://tinyurl.com/2wvua3


Linton-on-Ouse and Gravesend 23.9°C, Great Malvern and Northolt
24.1°C, Bournemouth and Farnborough 24.5°C, London MO and Heathrow
24.7°C, Charlwood 25.1°C, Herstmonceux 26.5°C.


I wonder if anywhere, as yet unchecked, will have reached 80F?
--

Yes ... 26.7 at Southampton National Oceanography Centre,
but as I and others have said we are not sure of the location
of the temperatures sensors. If it is a rooftop site then it will not
count.


Subsequently adjusted, according to the Met Office website, to 26.6
deg C. It's almost as if someone down Exeter way has read this thread
and decided that the site's a bit too dodgy to let it have that magic
first 80 degrees F of the year.

I am endeavouring to find out the site details of the Climatological
station at the NOC and I will report back if I make any progress; the
person I need to speak to there is currently away from the office but
if anyne else out there knows the answer, please let us know! My
inclination currently is that it will turn out to be a rooftop or
mast mounted AWS but we shall see.

--
Dave- Hide quoted text -

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Dave did you have any luck finding out if we squeezed an 80 f out on
sunday?
ATB
Vince

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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:50:45 +0100, "Dave Ross"
wrote:

"Dave Ludlow" wrote in
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 08:49:41 +0100, "Philip Eden"


Yes ... 26.7 at Southampton National Oceanography Centre,
but as I and others have said we are not sure of the location
of the temperatures sensors. If it is a rooftop site then it
will not count.

Subsequently adjusted, according to the Met Office website, to
26.6 deg C. It's almost as if someone down Exeter way has read this
thread and decided that the site's a bit too dodgy to let it have that
magic first 80 degrees F of the year.

I am endeavouring to find out the site details of the
Climatological station at the NOC and I will report back if I make any
progress; the person I need to speak to there is currently away from the
office but if anyne else out there knows the answer, please let us know! My
inclination currently is that it will turn out to be a rooftop or mast mounted
AWS but we shall see.

Dave, it would be interesting to know if there's anything left in
Mayflower Park too. The climat station stopped appearing in the
MWR decades ago, but you never know, the city council may
have installed their own AWS.

Philip

You had me confused for a moment Philip, 'til I realised you are
probably taking in the sun in France!

I want to get to the bottom of the sometimes odd looking maxima being
reported at Southampton NOC and Solent MRSC and I'm sure that before
too iong I'll be paying a visit to Southampton. I will be sure to
include Mayflower Park.

Yesterday I spent an hour or so wandering around the Lee-on-the Solent
beach and promenade with digital themometer in hand. Depending on
where I was and how strong the Northerly wind was, the aspirated air
temperature (taken by whirling my thermometer probe around on the end
of its wire, LOL) ranged between 16.5 deg C and 19.5 deg C at a time
(1700 GMT +/- 15 minutes) when Solent MRSC reported 19.0 degrees. The
range of 'air' temperatures in such a small area surprised me. I shall
be back there again, when conditions are suitable and I have the time.

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Dave


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On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 04:42:41 +0100, Dave Ludlow
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:50:45 +0100, "Dave Ross"
wrote:

"Dave Ludlow" wrote in
message ...
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 08:49:41 +0100, "Philip Eden"


I am endeavouring to find out the site details of the
Climatological station at the NOC and I will report back if I make any
progress; the person I need to speak to there is currently away from the
office but if anyne else out there knows the answer, please let us know! My
inclination currently is that it will turn out to be a rooftop or mast mounted
AWS but we shall see.

Dave, it would be interesting to know if there's anything left in
Mayflower Park too. The climat station stopped appearing in the
MWR decades ago, but you never know, the city council may
have installed their own AWS.

Philip

I want to get to the bottom of the sometimes odd looking maxima being
reported at Southampton NOC and Solent MRSC and I'm sure that before
too iong I'll be paying a visit to Southampton. I will be sure to
include Mayflower Park.

I've now heard from my NOC contact and all sensors are on a high flat
and exposed rooftop.

The site was chosen, it seems, to make wind measurements as
representative as possible of conditions on Southampton Water, which
is not unreasonable for an Oceanography Centre with its own berth at
the adjacent docks. The station is 26.5m above ordnance datum Newlyn
but it isn't clear if that refers to the anemometer or the other
instruments.

I'm a bit disappointed that it's a rooftop site but this is not
unexpected news. When I next go to Southampton, I'll check to see if
the instrument enclosure is visible (as I am sure the amemometer is)
and let's hope it isn't too near the air conditioning plant on the
towers! I will also check out Mayflower Park.

--
Dave


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