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Sorry to be OT, but I just wondered whether there were others who were
now experiencing problems since the relocation of the MSF transmitter up
north to Anthorn from Rugby. I can get sync with one clock in one room
(but not the room I need it!), but with a home made one, it seems to be
less sensitive and its a no go now. I e-mailed the folks, but got their
standard response of which the gist is - better for some worse for
others - tough!

Cheers
James
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"James Brown" wrote in message
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Sorry to be OT, but I just wondered whether there were others who were
now experiencing problems since the relocation of the MSF transmitter
up north to Anthorn from Rugby. I can get sync with one clock in one
room (but not the room I need it!), but with a home made one, it seems
to be less sensitive and its a no go now.


.... I have a unit (Oregon Scientific) right in front of me, and to be
honest I hadn't noticed until your email that it is not (currently)
picking up a sync. signal - I had heard vaguely that the tx had moved
but didn't realise that the service area would change so dramatically.

Martin.

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In message , Martin Rowley
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"James Brown" wrote in message
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Sorry to be OT, but I just wondered whether there were others who were
now experiencing problems since the relocation of the MSF transmitter
up north to Anthorn from Rugby. I can get sync with one clock in one
room (but not the room I need it!), but with a home made one, it seems
to be less sensitive and its a no go now.


... I have a unit (Oregon Scientific) right in front of me, and to be
honest I hadn't noticed until your email that it is not (currently)
picking up a sync. signal - I had heard vaguely that the tx had moved
but didn't realise that the service area would change so dramatically.

Martin.


Thanks for that Martin - the attitude of the powers that be seems to be
dismissive of problems down south - great pity!

James

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On Fri, 25 May 2007 12:35:36 +0100, James Brown wrote:

Thanks for that Martin - the attitude of the powers that be seems to be
dismissive of problems down south - great pity!


Makes a change. Stonking signal here now, couldn't get it all before the
move. B-)

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In message , Martin Rowley
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"James Brown" wrote in message
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Sorry to be OT, but I just wondered whether there were others who were
now experiencing problems since the relocation of the MSF transmitter
up north to Anthorn from Rugby. I can get sync with one clock in one
room (but not the room I need it!), but with a home made one, it seems
to be less sensitive and its a no go now.


... I have a unit (Oregon Scientific) right in front of me, and to be
honest I hadn't noticed until your email that it is not (currently)
picking up a sync. signal - I had heard vaguely that the tx had moved
but didn't realise that the service area would change so dramatically.

Martin.


Thanks for that Martin - the attitude of the powers that be seems to be
dismissive of problems down south - great pity!


But it makes a change for the geographical bias to be that way round ;-)

My LaCrosse w/s has a built-in MSF and it seems still to be in sync, though
(as before) not 24/7. I have some interest in this, because in the early
eighties (getting even further OT, but, hey, it's nearly the weekend) I
designed a single-chip MSF decoder which drove an alphanumeric LCD, quite a
novelty back then, and was the first of its kind (I was even invited to the
NPL to talk about it). I'm afraid that there are so many other accurate
time sources available now (GPS for one, internet timeservers for another)
that MSF is probably only of domestic / novelty interest, and few of any
influence will complain if it's not as reliably received as it used to be.

Steve P




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On 25 May, 14:23, MCC wrote:
James Brown wrote:

Sorry to be OT, but I just wondered whether there were others who were
now experiencing problems since the relocation of the MSF transmitter up
north to Anthorn from Rugby. I can get sync with one clock in one room
(but not the room I need it!), but with a home made one, it seems to be
less sensitive and its a no go now. I e-mailed the folks, but got their
standard response of which the gist is - better for some worse for
others - tough!


Haven't noticed any difference down here in Cornwall with either my wrist
watch or my Oregon "weather station", both of them controlled by MSF.
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Not surprisingly it's fine in Penzance in well.

Graham

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Dave Liquorice wrote:
Makes a change. Stonking signal here now, couldn't get it all before the
move. B-)


Much improved here too, since it moved to the midlands :-)
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On Fri, 25 May 2007 14:05:36 +0100, Steve Pardoe wrote:

I'm afraid that there are so many other accurate time sources available
now (GPS for one, internet timeservers for another)


If you are into having seriously accurate time you take all those sources,
compare them against each other and then make your own mind up. And where
do you think internet time servers get their reference from? Standard time
and frequency services and/or GPS.

that MSF is probably only of domestic / novelty interest, and few of any
influence will complain if it's not as reliably received as it used to
be.


Apart from the time encoded into the carrier, the carrier is also a
frequency standard.

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We have three clocks within our radio studio and since the move have had
many problems. One clock has been fine and the other two have been
either two hours fast or two hours slow After many hours of playing
we have found positions where they all seem to work.



Chris
Kempston, Bedford
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I offer you a solution James - move house.

I'm sure someone could tell you which area has the best coverage, but
I guess you'd find house prices inflated there because of the
availability of the signal. That might put you off the idea.

Incidentally, I have a Casio watch that is still on the market for
about a tenner. But I won't part with mine as it is accurate to 1
second per month. But the straps wear out. So I pay a fiver every
two years or so for a new strap. I guess I must be on number 5 or 6
by now. I have a back-up watch but that's rubbish and drifts by the
best part of two seconds EACH WEEK!

Jack



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