In article ,
Citizen Bob writes:
On 29 May 2007 01:21:33 -0700, Graham Easterling
wrote:

Is everything from the pollution of the oceans & atmosphere (there was
an interesting program on the seas around Hawii recently), to
destruction of rain forests & everything associated with them, down to
100s of dolphins being killed unnecessarily (due to industrial scale
fishing) & washed up on Cornwall's beaches each year (often cut in
half in an attempt to make them sink out to sea), not an issue?

If you want a real issue, how about the fact that there are over 600
homeless veterans living in the streets of Houston right now.

That's an issue for the US, though. You can hardly expect the
international community to do something about it. But any one country's
pollution can affect the whole world.
--
John Hall

"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)

On Tue, 29 May 2007 19:29:09 +0100, John Hall
wrote:

any one country's
pollution can affect the whole world.

The only international pollution we need to worry about comes from a
global nuclear war. You want global warming - you will get it in
spades.

One microgram of Plutonium in the lung and you are guaranteed to die.
Plutonium has a half life of 25,000 years. Only the cockroach will
survive.

Once radioactive pollution mixes in with the constituents of the
ecosphere, it's all over. So I would recommend not worrying about a
few dolphins and start worrying about the madmen who have their finger
on the nuclear arsenals of the world - or are about to.

Maybe we will reach a new equilibrium in the affairs of mankind. The
criminals running govts don't do anything to help others unless they
are forced to. If all the nations of Earth acquire nuclear weapons,
then when they suffer a tragedy they can threaten death to everyone on
Earth. That's get some help quickly.


--

"Be very, very careful what you put into your head,
because you will never, ever get it out."
--Thomas Cardinal Wolsey

On Tue, 29 May 2007 18:08:23 GMT, Paul Hyett
wrote:

Hello Bob - come to haunt me here too?

I am lurking in hopes someone will start a thread on sensor
positioning and enclosures for amateur weather stations.


--

"Be very, very careful what you put into your head,
because you will never, ever get it out."
--Thomas Cardinal Wolsey

In article ,
Citizen Bob writes:
On Tue, 29 May 2007 19:29:09 +0100, John Hall
wrote:

any one country's
pollution can affect the whole world.

The only international pollution we need to worry about comes from a
global nuclear war. You want global warming - you will get it in
spades.
snip

Global nuclear war is a worry, sure, but worrying about that doesn't
mean that it's the _only_ thing that we ought to worry about.
--
John Hall

"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)

In uk.sci.weather on Tue, 29 May 2007, Citizen Bob wrote
:
On Tue, 29 May 2007 18:08:23 GMT, Paul Hyett
wrote:

Hello Bob - come to haunt me here too?

I am lurking in hopes someone will start a thread on sensor
positioning and enclosures for amateur weather stations.

Wouldn't it be easier just to *ask*?
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

On Tue, 29 May 2007 21:43:59 +0100, John Hall
wrote:

Global nuclear war is a worry, sure, but worrying about that doesn't
mean that it's the _only_ thing that we ought to worry about.

It's the only thing that really matters. If something is not done to
prevent it, all the rest is irrelevant.

As I mentioned earlier, it could be a blessing in disguise. Under the
real threat of MADD, man will begin to realize that he must help
others.

The real problem is that govt is the root of all evil. We must find a
way to eliminate govt in its present form.

Lord Acton said it all: "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts
absolutely".

The unfortunate fact of man's existence is that the great aped ****ed
sheep. We are all just a bunch of snivelling cowards.


--

"Be very, very careful what you put into your head,
because you will never, ever get it out."
--Thomas Cardinal Wolsey

On Wed, 30 May 2007 09:02:04 GMT, Paul Hyett
wrote:

I am lurking in hopes someone will start a thread on sensor
positioning and enclosures for amateur weather stations.

Wouldn't it be easier just to *ask*?

I do not know the right questions to ask.


--

"Be very, very careful what you put into your head,
because you will never, ever get it out."
--Thomas Cardinal Wolsey

In uk.sci.weather on Wed, 30 May 2007, Citizen Bob wrote
:

I am lurking in hopes someone will start a thread on sensor
positioning and enclosures for amateur weather stations.

Wouldn't it be easier just to *ask*?

I do not know the right questions to ask.

You're kidding, right - you found enough questions to ask of me about
it. The only thing lacking was a light shining in my face...
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:31:11 GMT, Paul Hyett
wrote:

I am lurking in hopes someone will start a thread on sensor
positioning and enclosures for amateur weather stations.

Wouldn't it be easier just to *ask*?

I do not know the right questions to ask.

You're kidding, right - you found enough questions to ask of me about
it. The only thing lacking was a light shining in my face...

The beginning of any research project is marked by formulating the
questions to ask.

We are just scratching the surface of what is going to turn out to be
a very complex subject area. First we have to identify the problems.
Then we can formulate hypotheses and from there begin to cull the list
down to the best answer we can come up with.

There is no justification to adopt the Stevenson Screen as the de
facto standard. In fact it's design is kinda primitive compared to the
problem at hand. For example, consider the tremendous improvement of
just putting it under a simple sun shade like an umbrella. Now you
have a dual layer solution - the umbrella solves the problem of direct
sunlight and the enclosure solves the problem of stray radiation.


--

"Be very, very careful what you put into your head,
because you will never, ever get it out."
--Thomas Cardinal Wolsey

In uk.sci.weather on Thu, 31 May 2007, Citizen Bob wrote
:

We are just scratching the surface of what is going to turn out to be
a very complex subject area. First we have to identify the problems.
Then we can formulate hypotheses and from there begin to cull the list
down to the best answer we can come up with.

There is no justification to adopt the Stevenson Screen as the de
facto standard. In fact it's design is kinda primitive compared to the
problem at hand. For example, consider the tremendous improvement of
just putting it under a simple sun shade like an umbrella. Now you
have a dual layer solution - the umbrella solves the problem of direct
sunlight

Not in Britain where the sun never gets anywhere near overhead...
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)