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Met Office have put out a warning of possible flooding for later this
week, and looking at the surface chart there seems some similarity with
the Easter 1998 floods for Northampton - converging fronts lying east to
west
though wet conditions previous to the downpours occured there. We had a
call of a possible 60mm on the Countryfile forecast, it will be
interesting to see where the highest totals will be.

Plenty of rain about 0400-0600(ish) in Leeds this morning, my first
water butt nearly full too. Osmondthorpe
( http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dave.br...antage_Pro.htm )
down the Lane got 12.7mm, my gauge in Ilkley, 20 miles away, got only 4mm.


Dorian.

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Dorian Speakman" "dorian wrote:
Met Office have put out a warning of possible flooding for later this
week, and looking at the surface chart there seems some similarity
with the Easter 1998 floods for Northampton - converging fronts lying
east to west
though wet conditions previous to the downpours occured there.


Remember that well, the journey home from Bedford to Northampton took about
2 1/2 hours as each route I went down seemed blocked. At the time I lived
opposite an area that's now been built on.... it was a couple of feet under
the water back then.....


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cupra wrote:
Dorian Speakman" "dorian wrote:
Met Office have put out a warning of possible flooding for later this
week, and looking at the surface chart there seems some similarity
with the Easter 1998 floods for Northampton - converging fronts lying
east to west
though wet conditions previous to the downpours occured there.


Remember that well, the journey home from Bedford to Northampton took about
2 1/2 hours as each route I went down seemed blocked. At the time I lived
opposite an area that's now been built on.... it was a couple of feet under
the water back then.....


I take it where you lived is now protected by the new Nene flood
defences then?

....I wonder if all the cuts in flood defence programmes will come to be
regretted by Defra?...


Dorian.
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Dorian Speakman" "dorian wrote:
cupra wrote:
Dorian Speakman" "dorian wrote:
Met Office have put out a warning of possible flooding for later
this week, and looking at the surface chart there seems some
similarity with the Easter 1998 floods for Northampton - converging
fronts lying east to west
though wet conditions previous to the downpours occured there.


Remember that well, the journey home from Bedford to Northampton
took about 2 1/2 hours as each route I went down seemed blocked. At
the time I lived opposite an area that's now been built on.... it
was a couple of feet under the water back then.....


I take it where you lived is now protected by the new Nene flood
defences then?


I lived he

http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v...4614&encType=1

Still got photos of the fields opposite under water, somewhere....


...I wonder if all the cuts in flood defence programmes will come to
be regretted by Defra?...


I'm not up to date with Northants any more....


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GFS is going for well over 100 mm rain in the next three days in the
northern pennines,

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rmgfs96sum.gif

the residents of Carlisle must be worried being only 2 years since the Jan
05 floods

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cupra wrote:
Dorian Speakman" "dorian wrote:
Met Office have put out a warning of possible flooding for later this
week, and looking at the surface chart there seems some similarity
with the Easter 1998 floods for Northampton - converging fronts lying
east to west
though wet conditions previous to the downpours occured there.


Remember that well, the journey home from Bedford to Northampton took
about 2 1/2 hours as each route I went down seemed blocked. At the time I
lived opposite an area that's now been built on.... it was a couple of
feet under the water back then.....


I take it where you lived is now protected by the new Nene flood defences
then?

...I wonder if all the cuts in flood defence programmes will come to be
regretted by Defra?...


Dorian.





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In uk.sci.weather on Tue, 12 Jun 2007, Dorian Speakman "dorian
wrote :
Met Office have put out a warning of possible flooding for later this
week, and looking at the surface chart there seems some similarity with
the Easter 1998 floods for Northampton - converging fronts lying east
to west
though wet conditions previous to the downpours occured there. We had a
call of a possible 60mm on the Countryfile forecast, it will be
interesting to see where the highest totals will be.

Plenty of rain about 0400-0600(ish) in Leeds this morning, my first
water butt nearly full too. Osmondthorpe
( http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dave.br...antage_Pro.htm )
down the Lane got 12.7mm, my gauge in Ilkley, 20 miles away, got only 4mm.

Whereas here we haven't had a drop of rain so far this month...
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Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)
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Well the rain has started in the North Pennines
7.2mm in the last hour

As for the floods of 2005, this is different setup. There has been
plenty of dry weather recently, hopefully the ground will soak most of
this up. In 2005 we were already saturated. If anyone is intrested
there is a good publication on line all about it. I think Will Hand
has a mention and even my station ( briefly )

http://publications.environment-agen...06BLSF-e-e.pdf

as I type the rain has become heavier again

Paul Crabtree
Brampton NE Cumbria
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:24:55 +0100, Dorian Speakman wrote in


Met Office have put out a warning of possible flooding for later this
week, and looking at the surface chart there seems some similarity with
the Easter 1998 floods for Northampton - converging fronts lying east to
west
though wet conditions previous to the downpours occured there. We had a
call of a possible 60mm on the Countryfile forecast, it will be
interesting to see where the highest totals will be.


Flooding has already been severe this afternoon in parts of NI, with
Belfast worst affected. New items he

http://u.tv/newsroom/indepth.asp?id=82896&pt=n and

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6745285.stm

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On 12 juin, 18:24, Dorian Speakman "dorian wrote:
Met Office have put out a warning of possible flooding for later this
week


Already arrived in Belfast http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/n...nd/6745285.stm

Colin Youngs
Brussels

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On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:45:37 GMT, STUART ONYECHE wrote:

GFS is going for well over 100 mm rain in the next three days in the
northern pennines,

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rmgfs96sum.gif

the residents of Carlisle must be worried being only 2 years since the
Jan 05 floods


No, as Paul said the ground is fairly dry and the fells are very good
sponge. Previous to the 2005 floods it had been very wet for the previous
few weeks and the ground was absolutely saturated. Broadly 75mm fell in
48hrs but Shap got all but 4mm of 200mm in 48hrs.

100mm over three days will bring the rivers up but not to major flood
levels. The normal flood plains might get wet but that's about all, that's
why one should not build on flood plains...

Also since 2005 they have added a good 2' to the flood defences as well,
which must be pretty nearly finished now, last time I past they where
spreading topsoil and landscaping the levees.

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