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BBC's New Weather Graphics now more than 2 years old, and still as
useless as ever. Have a read. http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/bbcweat...hics_faq.shtml Anyway, bye for now, I'm off to Crete for a week, temperatures are expected to be around (40). http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?world=0231 |
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On 10 Jul, 07:51, Bonos Ego wrote:
BBC's New Weather Graphics now more than 2 years old, and still as useless as ever. Have a read. http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/bbcweat...hics_faq.shtml Anyway, bye for now, I'm off to Crete for a week, temperatures are expected to be around (40). http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?world=0231 I particularly like:- Difficulty Relating Temperatures to Places/Areas The temperature values shown are tied to the locations indicated on the maps. On the old system, temperature discs covered large areas of the country, and were therefore more imprecise. On the old map they had north & south coast temperatures for Devon & Cornwall. They were certainly imprecise, but at least they gave some indication of varying conditions. Now they have the new PRECISE method - well for Plymouth. Very useful if you're on holiday in St Ives, Newquay, Bude etc. I've always found the temperature forecast for Plymouth very precise when I'm 100 miles away on on Scilly. Graham Penzance |
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On Jul 10, 9:31 am, Graham Easterling
wrote: On 10 Jul, 07:51, Bonos Ego wrote: BBC's New Weather Graphics now more than 2 years old, and still as useless as ever. Have a read. http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/bbcweat...hics_faq.shtml Anyway, bye for now, I'm off to Crete for a week, temperatures are expected to be around (40). http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?world=0231 I particularly like:- Difficulty Relating Temperatures to Places/Areas The temperature values shown are tied to the locations indicated on the maps. On the old system, temperature discs covered large areas of the country, and were therefore more imprecise. On the old map they had north & south coast temperatures for Devon & Cornwall. They were certainly imprecise, but at least they gave some indication of varying conditions. Now they have the new PRECISE method - well for Plymouth. Very useful if you're on holiday in St Ives, Newquay, Bude etc. I've always found the temperature forecast for Plymouth very precise when I'm 100 miles away on on Scilly. From the above link: Snipped some doublespeak The old graphics were considered dull and flat by the audience. For the majority of the audience showing precise daily wind speeds and direction is not necessarily helpful. Our research showed that people were often confused by the amount of information within a forecast - we therefore aim to keep the information relevant and useful. We are able to go in much closer than with the old system and show the movement of weather across more localised areas, so giving more detail to the viewer. The speed of the 'tours' has been reduced. Making the details (cloud, rain, sunshine etc.), as prominent as possible and stripping away other information [In all fairness they]'ve kept the elevation of the maps (mountains etc.) but we've taken away variations in colour which come from using standard satellite photography. On the old system, temperature discs covered large areas of the country, and were therefore more imprecise. [This point, touched on in the previous post leaves out the fact that temperatures change in moments at any location. There is no such thing as precise for a forecast of this kind.] We are now able to edit the data received from the Met Office, with whom we have worked very closely throughout. [So can we take it the MetO is being similarly stripped of data and intelligent use thereof? Or is this better understood as more effective redundancies?] Health Concerns We have carried out tests to see how the new system works for people with visual impairments, for example those with colour blindness. A huge amount of research was done into the issue and considerable thought was put into the design and the combination of colours. Our forecasts are also provided in different ways to ensure that those people who may have a particular difficulty can get the same information in a different format - for example temperatures are shown as numbers on a coloured disc or as coloured gradients on a map. [In other words instead of using standard meteorological contours that anyone can follow there are expensive graphics for a few to easily get the hang of.] Specialist Users General television forecasts have never been intended for people whose lives and/or livelihoods depend on the weather for professional reasons. There are specialist forecasts available for these people from The Met Office. So we feel the service for everyone should be better and more reliable. [So do the rest of us. What's wrong with havng a reality check on the box?] Cost of New Graphics The cost of the new graphics is not something we will go in to, but running costs for the new system are lower than for the current one. [But significantly more than the cost of replacing a light bulb? Estimates run to over a thousand pounds for them apparently.] Feedback As always, we welcome feedback from viewers and users of our forecasts and will continue to monitor this carefully. [Or as more accurately translated from the doublespeak: Vigilant as always, the Carefully Censored Boards welcome compliments from viewers and users of our forecasts and we will continue to monitor this carefully. All posts are subject to our breathtakingly unbelievable terms.] |
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Weatherlawyer wrote in
ups.com: snip Cost of New Graphics The cost of the new graphics is not something we will go in to, but running costs for the new system are lower than for the current one. snip This bit has always annoyed me. If they're using licence-payers' money to pay for it, then the costings should not be kept secret. The BBC's argument is doubtless that confidentiality allows them to get a better deal, but personally I think that openness is more important than getting the cheapest possible cost. I'm probably in a minority there, though. -- Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl. |
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On Jul 10, 10:53 am, David Buttery wrote:
Weatherlawyer wrote roups.com: snip Cost of New Graphics The cost of the new graphics is not something we will go in to, but running costs for the new system are lower than for the current one. snip This bit has always annoyed me. If they're using licence-payers' money to pay for it, then the costings should not be kept secret. The BBC's argument is doubtless that confidentiality allows them to get a better deal, but personally I think that openness is more important than getting the cheapest possible cost. I'm probably in a minority there, though. It's more probable that unless someone with the know-how pushes the right buttons, we will never find out. Like I said in my first post, the BBC is a semi secret society, baffling honest questions from unsuspecting dupes, with a hoard of censorious editing. |
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