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Default Autumn has arrived in Surrey.....maybe....

Whilst driving in and around Woking, I was sure that I noticed some
trees with yellowing leaves making it look like the start of Autumn,
and more leaves than normal for this time of year scattered on the
ground. Horse chestnut trees seem to be suffering more than other
trees...

Anybody else noticed this?


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Whilst driving in and around Woking, I was sure that I noticed some
trees with yellowing leaves making it look like the start of Autumn,
and more leaves than normal for this time of year scattered on the
ground. Horse chestnut trees seem to be suffering more than other
trees...

Anybody else noticed this?

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Yes, in my garden! I'm still convinced that some parts of the S.E are in
drought conditions, with not enough winter rainfall to make up the deficit
deeper in the ground. The recent showers may have largely run off,
evaporated or been transpirated. The horse chestnut trees are suffering from
a disease in some parts of the UK which makes it look like they are drying
out, when in fact they may not be. I believe it is caused by the caterpillar
of the moth Cameraria ohridella . See
http://www.hainaultforest.co.uk/4Newspage.htm.

Dave


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Whilst driving in and around Woking, I was sure that I noticed some
trees with yellowing leaves making it look like the start of Autumn,
and more leaves than normal for this time of year scattered on the
ground. Horse chestnut trees seem to be suffering more than other
trees...

Anybody else noticed this?

--------------------
Yes, in my garden! I'm still convinced that some parts of the S.E are in
drought conditions, with not enough winter rainfall to make up the deficit
deeper in the ground. The recent showers may have largely run off,
evaporated or been transpirated. The horse chestnut trees are suffering from
a disease in some parts of the UK which makes it look like they are drying
out, when in fact they may not be. I believe it is caused by the caterpillar
of the moth Cameraria ohridella . See
http://www.hainaultforest.co.uk/4Newspage.htm.


Not just the flora, either. Also the fauna. Many of our chickens are in
moult (normally happens in Autumn) and I understand that many other
keepers of chickens are noticing a similar thing, certainly in our area.

--
Howard Neil
(western end of the Brecon Beacons National Park, at 235 metres asl)

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Whilst driving in and around Woking, I was sure that I noticed some
trees with yellowing leaves making it look like the start of Autumn,
and more leaves than normal for this time of year scattered on the
ground. Horse chestnut trees seem to be suffering more than other
trees...

Anybody else noticed this?


I've got plants with yellowing or shrivelled leaves, but I think that
this was caused by waterlogging.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley


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Dave Cornwell wrote:

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Whilst driving in and around Woking, I was sure that I noticed some
trees with yellowing leaves making it look like the start of Autumn,
and more leaves than normal for this time of year scattered on the
ground. Horse chestnut trees seem to be suffering more than other
trees...

Anybody else noticed this?

--------------------
Yes, in my garden! I'm still convinced that some parts of the S.E are in
drought conditions,



Not sure about that. There's a plantation of several hundred trees near me
(N.E. Hants) that have nearly all died because it's been underwater since
November. It's in an old gravel pit about the size of 4 football pitches
that floods every winter, only this year it is still several feet deep even
now and the trees have given up.


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