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Here is a summary of the NWP output for 12z on Friday.
Issued 0547z, 16th July 2007. The models are split regarding the weekend. ECM shows a generally settled picture, but MetO and GFS show less settled conditions (especially on Sunday). Givem the GFS ensembles it looks like the ECM is on its own this time, meaning the weekend is likely to be unsettled. Analysis and evolution to T+120 via GFS http://85.214.49.20/pics/Rtavn001.png http://85.214.49.20/pics/avnpanel1.gif A weak trough covers England and Wales, with ENE'lies elsewhere. Tomorrow a low lies to the west of Scotland, with SW'lies across the UK. A trough remains over Scotland on Wednesday, with SW'lies persisting elsewhere. On Thursday a ridge lies to the west, with light northerlies over the UK as a result. T+120 synopsis http://85.214.49.20/pics/Rtavn12015.png / http://85.214.49.20/pics/Rtavn1201.png http://85.214.49.20/pics/Rjma1201.gif / http://85.214.49.20/pics/Rukm1201.gif http://85.214.49.20/pics/Recm1201.gif / http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/nogapse_cartes.php The jetstream chart shows a strong jet across the North Atlantic and a trough over the UK. At the 500hPa level there's a low over the North Sea and a ridge to the west. MetO shows an upper ridge to the north and an upper low over England and Wales, while ECM brings an upper trough over the UK. NGP has upper SW'lies for the UK and GEM shows an upper trough over England. At the surface GFS brings northerlies and NW'lies, with a shallow trough over SE England. MetO has a low over the North Sea and a mixture of northerlies and NW'lies for the UK. ECM also brings a mixture of northerlies and NW'lies, while NGP has SW'lies for England and Wales and a col over Scotland. GEM brings a ridge to the west and WNW'lies for all. Evolution to T+168 ECM brings a ridge from the west by Sunday. On day 6 a col covers the UK and on day 7 a ridge "topples" over the UK, leading to light westerlies and WNW'lies. GFS has a different outlook, with a large upper trough moving close to the UK. On day 6 a deep low lies to the WNW, with a weak ridge over the UK in advance. SW'lies and WSW'lies are the result, followed by strong SW'lies as the low deepens and moves ESE'wards to the west of Scotland. Looking further afield Beyond day 7, the ECM shows SW'lies on day 8 with a low to the NW, followed by further SW'lies on day 9. By day 10 a ridge builds over Biscay, leading to SSW'lies. GFS shows the upper trough moving slowly eastwards. On day 8 winds are SW'lies for all with a low over northern Scotland. Day 9 sees a trough linger over Scotland with SW'lies elsewhere. By day 10 the trough moves away to the east, leaving the UK under a mixture of NW'lies and WSW'lies. Ensemble analysis (http://expert.weatheronline.co.uk/da...ia/ensdia.html - last night's 18z) The ensembles continue to show temperatures aloft below average for the forseeable future. |
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![]() "Darren Prescott" wrote in message ... Here is a summary of the NWP output for 12z on Friday. Issued 0547z, 16th July 2007. The models are split regarding the weekend. ECM shows a generally settled picture, but MetO and GFS show less settled conditions (especially on Sunday). Givem the GFS ensembles it looks like the ECM is on its own this time, meaning the weekend is likely to be unsettled. Analysis and evolution to T+120 via GFS http://85.214.49.20/pics/Rtavn001.png http://85.214.49.20/pics/avnpanel1.gif A weak trough covers England and Wales, with ENE'lies elsewhere. Tomorrow a low lies to the west of Scotland, with SW'lies across the UK. A trough remains over Scotland on Wednesday, with SW'lies persisting elsewhere. On Thursday a ridge lies to the west, with light northerlies over the UK as a result. T+120 synopsis http://85.214.49.20/pics/Rtavn12015.png / http://85.214.49.20/pics/Rtavn1201.png http://85.214.49.20/pics/Rjma1201.gif / http://85.214.49.20/pics/Rukm1201.gif http://85.214.49.20/pics/Recm1201.gif / http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/nogapse_cartes.php The jetstream chart shows a strong jet across the North Atlantic and a trough over the UK. At the 500hPa level there's a low over the North Sea and a ridge to the west. MetO shows an upper ridge to the north and an upper low over England and Wales, while ECM brings an upper trough over the UK. NGP has upper SW'lies for the UK and GEM shows an upper trough over England. At the surface GFS brings northerlies and NW'lies, with a shallow trough over SE England. MetO has a low over the North Sea and a mixture of northerlies and NW'lies for the UK. ECM also brings a mixture of northerlies and NW'lies, while NGP has SW'lies for England and Wales and a col over Scotland. GEM brings a ridge to the west and WNW'lies for all. Evolution to T+168 ECM brings a ridge from the west by Sunday. On day 6 a col covers the UK and on day 7 a ridge "topples" over the UK, leading to light westerlies and WNW'lies. GFS has a different outlook, with a large upper trough moving close to the UK. On day 6 a deep low lies to the WNW, with a weak ridge over the UK in advance. SW'lies and WSW'lies are the result, followed by strong SW'lies as the low deepens and moves ESE'wards to the west of Scotland. Looking further afield Beyond day 7, the ECM shows SW'lies on day 8 with a low to the NW, followed by further SW'lies on day 9. By day 10 a ridge builds over Biscay, leading to SSW'lies. GFS shows the upper trough moving slowly eastwards. On day 8 winds are SW'lies for all with a low over northern Scotland. Day 9 sees a trough linger over Scotland with SW'lies elsewhere. By day 10 the trough moves away to the east, leaving the UK under a mixture of NW'lies and WSW'lies. Ensemble analysis (http://expert.weatheronline.co.uk/da...ia/ensdia.html - last night's 18z) The ensembles continue to show temperatures aloft below average for the forseeable future. ---------------------- Hi Darren, predicting summer seems as difficult as predicting snow this year! After this weekend turned out so nice I think I'll wait nearer the time for next weekend. Thanks, as usual. Dave, S.Essex. P.S - I expect you caught some of last night's rain? 1mm here for whole of weekend! |
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"Dave Cornwell" wrote:
Hi Darren, predicting summer seems as difficult as predicting snow this year! After this weekend turned out so nice I think I'll wait nearer the time for next weekend. Thanks, as usual. It rather reminds me of the winter setup, whereby a depression moving a couple of hundred miles can make a big difference to the type of weather at a given location. Compare that with the situation in recent years, where pressure gradiants are slack and more often than not there's a huge ridge nearby and it's little wonder things are so variable this time around. I certainly don't envy anyone involved with making medium term (7 to 10 day) forecasts at the moment. P.S - I expect you caught some of last night's rain? 1mm here for whole of weekend! We had some torrential rain around 9PM yesterday (with thunder), plus some more in the early hours of this morning. I couldn't say how much, though, as the rain guage seems to have stopped transmitting for some reason! |
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