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Hi all,

Not really about weather but many here have an interest in "Global
Warming" so I thought I'd let you know about a C4 programme showing
tonight at 8pm - it's a Dispatches programme called 'the Great Green
Smokescreen' - which promises to dissect some of the 'solutions' to
global warming:

http://www.channel4.com/news/article...escreen/589267

Overview of programme content below. Not going to comment on how fair
and balanced it is until I've seen it (although good to see that their
Science Correspondent has 'discovered' that direct personal action might
make a difference......!).

Neil


Days after Live Earth partied for the planet, Dispatches reveals how
attempts to buy our way out of climate crisis may not be delivering.
Channel 4 News' Science Correspondent Tom Clarke dissects the many
'solutions' to global warming - from carbon off-setting to green energy
tariffs.

Jetting off on holidays and mini-breaks - we're increasingly turning to
off-setting to alleviate our environmental guilt. It's a boom industry,
with dozens of new companies springing up each year to offset everything
from weddings to babies' nappies.

The UK's biggest players have a collective turn-over in excess of £2m.
And now big business is in on the act with Barclays, HSBC and Sky
off-setting themselves and Dell and BP selling offsets to their customers.

But are offsets really the answer in the fight against global warming?
Clarke investigates a number of projects - from tree-planting in the UK
to pig manure in Mexico - all of which are supposed to cancel out our
carbon footprint. But do these projects stand up to scrutiny?

So what else should consumers consider? Green energy tariffs look
appealing, but research commissioned for Dispatches shows they often
don't make a watt of difference.

Carbon labelling is being talked up a storm, but scientists tell
Dispatches that labelling may not be a credible reality for some time to
come.

One way of making a difference, Clark discovers, might be to take direct
personal action to lower our own carbon emissions. But given the small
amount of savings each of us can make as individuals, is that any more
than a token gesture?

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Neil wrote:
Hi all,

Not really about weather but many here have an interest in "Global
Warming" so I thought I'd let you know about a C4 programme showing
tonight at 8pm - it's a Dispatches programme called 'the Great Green
Smokescreen' - which promises to dissect some of the 'solutions' to
global warming:

http://www.channel4.com/news/article...escreen/589267

Overview of programme content below. Not going to comment on how fair
and balanced it is until I've seen it (although good to see that their
Science Correspondent has 'discovered' that direct personal action might
make a difference......!).

Neil


Days after Live Earth partied for the planet, Dispatches reveals how
attempts to buy our way out of climate crisis may not be delivering.
Channel 4 News' Science Correspondent Tom Clarke dissects the many
'solutions' to global warming - from carbon off-setting to green energy
tariffs.

Jetting off on holidays and mini-breaks - we're increasingly turning to
off-setting to alleviate our environmental guilt. It's a boom industry,
with dozens of new companies springing up each year to offset everything
from weddings to babies' nappies.

The UK's biggest players have a collective turn-over in excess of £2m.
And now big business is in on the act with Barclays, HSBC and Sky
off-setting themselves and Dell and BP selling offsets to their customers.

But are offsets really the answer in the fight against global warming?
Clarke investigates a number of projects - from tree-planting in the UK
to pig manure in Mexico - all of which are supposed to cancel out our
carbon footprint. But do these projects stand up to scrutiny?

So what else should consumers consider? Green energy tariffs look
appealing, but research commissioned for Dispatches shows they often
don't make a watt of difference.

Carbon labelling is being talked up a storm, but scientists tell
Dispatches that labelling may not be a credible reality for some time to
come.

One way of making a difference, Clark discovers, might be to take direct
personal action to lower our own carbon emissions. But given the small
amount of savings each of us can make as individuals, is that any more
than a token gesture?


I think the arguments for glowballs can be summed up in the news items
today.

People killing each other for their own good as usual and rubbish
heaped up in the streets where birds, rats and foxes can get them.
What is the point of saving the earth if we are all dead from
diseases? If they want to lessen the carbon imprint they aught to put
car tyres and computer parts into landfill.

I suppose they have run out of stunts for big brother have they?

Lead or food poisoning. Far quicker than carbon dioxide asphyxiation
or reality TV.

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"Neil" wrote in message
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Hi all,

Not really about weather but many here have an interest in "Global
Warming" so I thought I'd let you know about a C4 programme showing
tonight at 8pm - it's a Dispatches programme called 'the Great Green
Smokescreen' - which promises to dissect some of the 'solutions' to global
warming:


Thanks for the info Neil this should be very interesting.



You know I've recently wondered about this 'carbon off-setting ', how does
it work in practice ? Actually it reminds me of atonement for your sins,
some kind of confessional where you say three Hail Mary's or in this case
promise to drink organic tea for a week and use reusable nappies for a
month! Hey presto absolution. The CO2 mob are like that, evangelical
religious nutters and ironically they permeate from the left middle classes
who not so long ago professed to hate all religion as the opium of the
people; now of course they promote religion as long as it isn't western
Christianity.



What's this got to do with GW, well I see that a a new religion for those
spoilt never-had-it better middle classes of the western developed world.



We really do though find ourselves in odd times a world where information is
open to all and yet it has never been so dishonestly manipulated to the
point where we can't tell our heads from our arses.



Let's give some of the increasingly numerous examples: many people living
in registered community care for adults with learning disabilities come
under very stringent and frankly sometimes nonsensical policies. The local
authorities send around their Environmental health officers who then
threaten to close a home down if a hand bowl isn't fitted in the kitchen or
insect nets are not in place. Yet these same Environmental Officers as they
leave the home they've inspected walk past rubbish that hasn't been
collected with wheelie bins overflowing and bags ripped open by foxes and
rats.



At present I'm having a battle with a local London authority that have the
cheek to tell you their policy is a weekly collection and yet they are
practising a two week pick up! Of course the complaints procedure has been
put out to a privately run call-centre with a snappy name.



This is underlined by the lying ludicrous government plans to make
two-weekly household waste collections the norm; as it supposedly more
green. What lying rubbish (puns intended) I say.



Yep this programme should be further proof what a lying deceitful twisted
bunch these robber-baron politicians have became.



It's almost 8pm I'm off to watch Dispatches-it won't be pretty













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Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
"Neil" wrote in message
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Hi all,

Not really about weather but many here have an interest in "Global
Warming" so I thought I'd let you know about a C4 programme showing
tonight at 8pm - it's a Dispatches programme called 'the Great Green
Smokescreen' - which promises to dissect some of the 'solutions' to global
warming:


Thanks for the info Neil this should be very interesting.

You know I've recently wondered about this 'carbon off-setting ', how does
it work in practice ?


And having seen the programme, anyone who did not already know is now certain
that it does not work in practice.

Soon, the phrase 'dying of consumption' will reappear with a whole new meaning.


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