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![]() "Weatherlawyer" wrote in message ups.com... On Jul 23, 5:40?pm, "Jack )" wrote: On 23 Jul, 17:29, Graham P Davis wrote: However, another listener had pointed out that ground floors of new houses had been made lower than before so as to make it easier to comply with disabled-access legislation. Imagine the ramps you'd need for a house on stilts! Extrapolating that argument, it would mean that the disabled could never be housed above ground level. Plenty of disabled people live in flats and use (stair)lifts. OK, lifts would pose problems when it's flooded but it cannot be a insuperable difficulty. As it happens some of the oldest wooden houses in the country were built on rocky outcrops some 3 feet above the surrounding soil thus taking them out of the water table abd giving them some flood resistance. Of course in those days utilising crown bare sides of hills was the norm so there never was a chance of flood in the first place. I am watch Newsnight ATM and some expert is being taken to task overthe disposition of flood defences. He can't seem to get it through the skulls of his assailants that there is no defence from such floods. Don't people know how long rivers are and how they work or something? Do they think they are just city features that are in a constant change, like fountains in watergardens only bigger? Feck me there are some wazzocks around. No just the blame society and it's all your fault. |
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:37:21 -0700, "Jack )"
wrote: No one seems to have mentioned the obvious idea of constructing buildings on "stilts". A quick Google search brought these examples: http://digitalgladrags.com/photofocu...boat-house.jpg http://www.hbp.usm.my/conservation/M...s/malaysun.jpg http://www.forgotten-ny.com/YOU'D%20NEVER%20BELIEVE/Broad%20Channel/ROCKWYHS.JPG http://www.ndmindia.nic.in/EQProject...wnersguide.pdf Notice that most of these pictures are from the so called "third world". Why is it rocket science in Britain? Jack Why not put 'ground' floor at 6ft above ground and use the space created for car garage and garden tools etc. in event of flood warning just put tools in car and drive to higher ground. It would cost more for each building, but there would be a greater saving on flood damage and cost of flood protection. Another thought, do the opposite of all the present recommendations and fit barriers in up stream locations and keep water back at source and let go at a rate that lower stream areas could cope with. Alternatively blame it all on global warming an increase tax on 4x4's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! jeff |
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On Jul 23, 10:46 pm, "flybywire" wrote:
makes you wonder how the power companies can get away with not protecting their important substations with flood walls same goes for the water authorities and their pumping stations Also why on earth don't we have some decent culverts like you see in Spain Bring back the Victorian engineers they would know what to do Wasn't it the Victorians that put the pumping houses in? Britain had hedges and ditches with some magnificent trees around small fields in those days. Any large scale agricultural water modification was to keep the stuff in as water meadows and in the winter, ice rinks. Now we have large fields with barbed wire and scabby bushes here and there, with no marshland but huge land drainage schemes instead. |
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On Jul 24, 8:48 am, Edward J Milan wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:37:21 -0700, "Jack )" wrote: No one seems to have mentioned the obvious idea of constructing buildings on "stilts". A quick Google search brought these examples: http://digitalgladrags.com/photofocu...4731_boat-hous... http://www.hbp.usm.my/conservation/M...s/malaysun.jpg http://www.forgotten-ny.com/YOU'D%20NEVER%20BELIEVE/Broad%20Channel/R... http://www.ndmindia.nic.in/EQProject...wnersguide.pdf Notice that most of these pictures are from the so called "third world". Why is it rocket science in Britain? Jack Why not put 'ground' floor at 6ft above ground and use the space created for car garage and garden tools etc. in event of flood warning just put tools in car and drive to higher ground. It would cost more for each building, but there would be a greater saving on flood damage and cost of flood protection. But us oiks can't afford houses now. That means that those who can, are stuck with what they already have, so no innovation can take place. Another thought, do the opposite of all the present recommendations and fit barriers in up stream locations and keep water back at source and let go at a rate that lower stream areas could cope with. Why not use giant corks and keep it there until needed. Alternatively blame it all on global warming and increase tax on 4x4's! You mean if you bought a car capable of dealing with glowballs it should be taxed to perdition to get everyone in the same boat? A strange egalitarian stance that. |
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Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Jul 23, 10:46 pm, "flybywire" wrote: makes you wonder how the power companies can get away with not protecting their important substations with flood walls same goes for the water authorities and their pumping stations Also why on earth don't we have some decent culverts like you see in Spain Bring back the Victorian engineers they would know what to do Wasn't it the Victorians that put the pumping houses in? Britain had hedges and ditches with some magnificent trees around small fields in those days. Any large scale agricultural water modification was to keep the stuff in as water meadows and in the winter, ice rinks. Reminds me of Wellingborough where, when I was going to school, there were water-meadows which were built on thirty-odd years ago. I wonder how that estate copes now? The Dog & Duck football ground across the road used to get flooded most winters when the River Nen overflowed. -- Graham P Davis Bracknell, Berks., UK Send e-mails to "newsman" as mails to "newsboy" are ignored. |
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