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May give an interuption to the present dry conditions in the south.

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On Oct 7, 9:31 pm, "Phil Layton" wrote:

http://85.214.49.20/wz/pics/brack1.gif
May give an interuption to the present dry conditions in the south.


If that forecast bears fruit then there will have to be another super
cyclone to make it happen.

Nothing on he http://www.hurricanezone.net/ except the remains of
Krosa which Pearl Harbour rates at 40 knots. Unless it bounces off
China and starts again that's a bust.

However it could occur that the substitutes will stand in.

Nothing on here yet : http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/wwa/
Any red boxes will indicate the chance of them happening not only in
the places marked but of course in other countries too (where they go
more or less unreported.) There is a tendency for them to occur is
what I am saying, not that they will occur at a specific place.

They will have to be severe and widespread though.

And then there is the volcanic issue. Lots of issues. Sadly, no known
daily update sites.

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"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
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On Oct 7, 9:31 pm, "Phil Layton" wrote:

http://85.214.49.20/wz/pics/brack1.gif
May give an interuption to the present dry conditions in the south.


If that forecast bears fruit then there will have to be another super
cyclone to make it happen.


No, there are some fronts out in the Atlantic that are to
move across us that will make it happen!
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On Oct 8, 5:04 am, "Col" wrote:
"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message

ups.com...

On Oct 7, 9:31 pm, "Phil Layton" wrote:


http://85.214.49.20/wz/pics/brack1.gif
May give an interuption to the present dry conditions in the south.


If that forecast bears fruit then there will have to be another super
cyclone to make it happen.


No, there are some fronts out in the Atlantic that are to
move across us that will make it happen!


Actually the requirement is nothing to do with air per se but then you
know that don't you.

I was wondering about the fallacy of directly linking the formation of
cyclones in general (and super cyclones in particular) with solar
radiation. It appears that insolation is the cause but it rules out
the fact that as a sump the 200 or so feet of sea surface that supply
the heat, washes that heat away PDQ.

Too DQ for the effect to build up from 12 hours of sunshine every 24
hours of some shine.

And yet you can set your calendar by these seasonal storms.

Any thoughts on the subject, or would you just like to be clever...
one day

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"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Oct 7, 9:31 pm, "Phil Layton" wrote:

http://85.214.49.20/wz/pics/brack1.gif
May give an interuption to the present dry conditions in the south.


If that forecast bears fruit then there will have to be another super
cyclone to make it happen.

Nothing on he http://www.hurricanezone.net/ except the remains of
Krosa which Pearl Harbour rates at 40 knots. Unless it bounces off
China and starts again that's a bust.

However it could occur that the substitutes will stand in.

Nothing on here yet : http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/wwa/
Any red boxes will indicate the chance of them happening not only in
the places marked but of course in other countries too (where they go
more or less unreported.) There is a tendency for them to occur is
what I am saying, not that they will occur at a specific place.

They will have to be severe and widespread though.

And then there is the volcanic issue. Lots of issues. Sadly, no known
daily update sites.


It is said that if you had an infinite number of monkeys banging away at
typewriters for long enough one of them would eventually re-create the full
works of Shakespeare.

Dear Weatherlawyer, your keyboard banging may not be mistaken for
Shakespeare but it is definitely the work of a monkey.

Some people should be shielded from science as they believe that any
random arrangement of scientific terminology must still be read as
sound science.

Paulus




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On Oct 7, 9:31 pm, "Phil Layton" wrote:
http://85.214.49.20/wz/pics/brack1.gif
May give an interuption to the present dry conditions in the south.

Phil

--www.layton.me.uk/meteo.htm


Certainly the latest GFS (0600 Monday) forecasts a lot of
rain for large areas of England as a cold pool moves SE-wards across
the country.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

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"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Oct 8, 5:04 am, "Col" wrote:
"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message

ups.com...

On Oct 7, 9:31 pm, "Phil Layton" wrote:


http://85.214.49.20/wz/pics/brack1.gif
May give an interuption to the present dry conditions in the south.


If that forecast bears fruit then there will have to be another super
cyclone to make it happen.


No, there are some fronts out in the Atlantic that are to
move across us that will make it happen!


Actually the requirement is nothing to do with air per se but then you
know that don't you.


The weather is nothing to do with the atmosphere?
Sure, I knew that....

I was wondering about the fallacy of directly linking the formation of
cyclones in general (and super cyclones in particular) with solar
radiation. It appears that insolation is the cause but it rules out
the fact that as a sump the 200 or so feet of sea surface that supply
the heat, washes that heat away PDQ.


Where does the heat go to?
Warm water rises as we all know, surely it stays at the surface?

But anyway, please demonstate the correlation between 'super
cyclones', whatever they are, Cat. 5 hurricanes? and the wet
weather that is expected over much of the UK tomorrow.

Too DQ for the effect to build up from 12 hours of sunshine every 24
hours of some shine.

And yet you can set your calendar by these seasonal storms.


I do?

Any thoughts on the subject, or would you just like to be clever...
one day


My thoughts are above.
You're the one making outlandish comments that the weather
in the Atlantic can be predicted a couple of days ahead by
the formation of 'super cyclones' *where* exactly I don't know!
--
Col

Steal a spaceship and head for the sun,
Shoot the stars with a lemonade ray gun.


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On Oct 8, 10:19 am, "paulus" wrote:

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Have you ever read any Usenet posts?

Not that I care of course. It's just that you seem inured to the
practicalities of life. But let that stop you.

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On Oct 7, 9:31 pm, "Phil Layton" wrote:
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May give an interuption to the present dry conditions in the south.

Phil

--www.layton.me.uk/meteo.htm


It's a rather sad comment on this group that there has been so
little comment on this rather unusual situation, which is forecast to
give some remarkably heavy rain for a short spell. Even those who
have done so have allowed themselves to be diverted by the village
idiot, who should simply be ignored at all times regardless of his
provocative lunacies. I admit I have replied to him in my own thread
but that is because no-one else has bothered to say anything at all.
Where *is* everybody?

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.






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