Looking at the Met Office Highs and Lows over the last month, on
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/...t_weather.html
there are lost of stations in fairly small towns like Glenlivet, Lake
Vyrnwy, Aboyne, South Uist, Katesbridge and several in Wales that feature
quite regularly. Apart from the fact that I have to google map them to see
where they are - am wondering what type of stations are these ? Some seem to
be located in very rural places - they may have a miltary or environmental
connections -presumably they are all MetO checked out for verification etc..

Phil

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www.layton.me.uk/meteo.htm

On 24 Oct, 07:47, "Phil Layton" wrote:
Looking at the Met Office Highs and Lows over the last month, onhttp://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/uk_latest_weather.html
there are lost of stations in fairly small towns like Glenlivet, Lake
Vyrnwy, Aboyne, South Uist, Katesbridge and several in Wales that feature
quite regularly. Apart from the fact that I have to google map them to see
where they are - am wondering what type of stations are these ? Some seem to
be located in very rural places - they may have a miltary or environmental
connections -presumably they are all MetO checked out for verification etc..

Phil

--www.layton.me.uk/meteo.htm

Hi, Phil,

Afaik they are all checked regularly the same as my site at Copley.
I'm sure you had heard of Copley, though, before I came along (;0).

Our instruments, exposure and obs are subject to close scrutiny -
often more than the well-known sites because some of the readings are
a little different to built up areas in SE England as you have noted.

Ken
Copley, Teesdale

On 24 Oct, 09:14, Ken Cook wrote:
On 24 Oct, 07:47, "Phil Layton" wrote:

Looking at the Met Office Highs and Lows over the last month, onhttp://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/uk_latest_weather.html
there are lost of stations in fairly small towns like Glenlivet, Lake
Vyrnwy, Aboyne, South Uist, Katesbridge and several in Wales that feature
quite regularly. Apart from the fact that I have to google map them to see
where they are - am wondering what type of stations are these ? Some seem to
be located in very rural places - they may have a miltary or environmental
connections -presumably they are all MetO checked out for verification etc..

Phil

--www.layton.me.uk/meteo.htm

Hi, Phil,

Afaik they are all checked regularly the same as my site at Copley.
I'm sure you had heard of Copley, though, before I came along (;0).

Our instruments, exposure and obs are subject to close scrutiny -
often more than the well-known sites because some of the readings are
a little different to built up areas in SE England as you have noted.

Ken
Copley, Teesdale

Also meant to mention, some sites are Forestry Commission, whisky
distilleries, Environment Agency, TV stations, Tourism, Ports
Authorities and other weather-dependent industries.
Plus pure amateur weather nuts like me who do it all for love and have
reported to the Met O now for 37 years. It was all much more fun when
Newcastle Weather Centre contacted me daily, or RAF Leeming did the
inspections and invited me around the base.
Nothing against the present inspection system, all very keen and
helpful Met O personnel, but the old days were always the best in
everything (;0)

Ken
still in Copley, but going for a look out soon.

On 24 Oct, 10:49, Ken Cook wrote:
On 24 Oct, 09:14, Ken Cook wrote:

On 24 Oct, 07:47, "Phil Layton" wrote:

Looking at the Met Office Highs and Lows over the last month, onhttp://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/uk_latest_weather.html
there are lost of stations in fairly small towns like Glenlivet, Lake
Vyrnwy, Aboyne, South Uist, Katesbridge and several in Wales that feature
quite regularly. Apart from the fact that I have to google map them to see
where they are - am wondering what type of stations are these ? Some seem to
be located in very rural places - they may have a miltary or environmental
connections -presumably they are all MetO checked out for verification etc..

Phil

--www.layton.me.uk/meteo.htm

Hi, Phil,

Afaik they are all checked regularly the same as my site at Copley.
I'm sure you had heard of Copley, though, before I came along (;0).

Our instruments, exposure and obs are subject to close scrutiny -
often more than the well-known sites because some of the readings are
a little different to built up areas in SE England as you have noted.

Ken
Copley, Teesdale

Also meant to mention, some sites are Forestry Commission, whisky
distilleries, Environment Agency, TV stations, Tourism, Ports
Authorities and other weather-dependent industries.
Plus pure amateur weather nuts like me who do it all for love and have
reported to the Met O now for 37 years. It was all much more fun when
Newcastle Weather Centre contacted me daily, or RAF Leeming did the
inspections and invited me around the base.
Nothing against the present inspection system, all very keen and
helpful Met O personnel, but the old days were always the best in
everything (;0)

Ken
still in Copley, but going for a look out soon.


Hi Ken,

Been meaning to ask, are the MetO showing much interest in your fabled
frost hollow?
Currently here. 10.2/5.2 Sc doing it's best to break...but failing.

Ian,

Raunds, Northants. Still awake (just) going to bed shortly :-) Zzzzzz

On 24 Oct, 11:22, Ian wrote:
Hi Ken,

Been meaning to ask, are the MetO showing much interest in your fabled
frost hollow?
Currently here. 10.2/5.2 Sc doing it's best to break...but failing.

Ian,

Hi, Ian,

I got the inspector to look at the site and instruments down there
last year and I include the reports to the Met O occasionally but they
are not particularly interested. They even disregarded the site at
Redhill Airfield because it was too extreme so what chance Copley! I
found it fascinating at Redhill, Chipstead Valley, Rickmansworth etc.
People live in these areas, so why not report their weather?

What is the true climate of Copley? This month, all within 300 metres
distance, we have Lead Mill Mean Max 13.3C M Min 3.7C Mean 8.5C Air
frost 6
Met O site Mean max 13.9C M Min 5.3C Mean 9.6C Air frost 1

Met O doesn't seem so personal these days. Years ago I received awards
for long service but that recognition seems to have gone. I ran a
station at nearby Low Etherley for 25 years and now Copley for 12
years, so the computer probably has me down as two different people!
We need the enthusiasm of the likes of Gordon Manley with his frost
site at Houghall Agricultural Colege, Durham and his hut on Great Dun
Fell. I think the few weather enthusiasts left at Met O are on this
ng, and their enthusiasm is infectious.

The Environment Agency is more interested in my obs together with Lord
Barnard the landowner. Of course, the person most interseted is me or
I wouldn't make the effort. Weather's fascinating, long live Eric
Olthwaite (Ripping Yarns)


Ken
Copley, Teesdale

I got the inspector to look at the site and instruments down there
last year and I include the reports to the Met O occasionally but they
are not particularly interested.

They seem disinterested in collecting local data at all these days. It
does seem a shame when there can be such a variation over short
distances. In Cornwall they have no reports from sheltered coastal
locations. (The report for Newquay being the exposed hill top of St
Mawgan). The trouble is they now appear to use readings from these
exposed airfields, and apply them as the current weather for the south
Cornwall resorts. (So if you go to the MetO website, choose Penzance &
current weather you get Camborne or Culdrose data. Best to use
XCWeather - you get Pz heliport)

I think the few weather enthusiasts left at Met O are on this
ng, and their enthusiasm is infectious.

The Environment Agency is more interested in my obs together with Lord
Barnard the landowner.

I've always found the EA very helpful, especially with local rainfall
events as they've got several rain gauges within 10 miles of me.

Graham
Penzance

Thanks for the info Ken. It assures me that there are lots of sites like
yours. Here in the SE, its the same old favourites that show up. Still, its
fun seeing where the spots are and trying to pronouce some of them let alone
spell them!

Phil

"Ken Cook" wrote in message
ups.com...
On 24 Oct, 11:22, Ian wrote:
Hi Ken,

Been meaning to ask, are the MetO showing much interest in your fabled
frost hollow?
Currently here. 10.2/5.2 Sc doing it's best to break...but failing.

Ian,

Hi, Ian,

I got the inspector to look at the site and instruments down there
last year and I include the reports to the Met O occasionally but they
are not particularly interested. They even disregarded the site at
Redhill Airfield because it was too extreme so what chance Copley! I
found it fascinating at Redhill, Chipstead Valley, Rickmansworth etc.
People live in these areas, so why not report their weather?

What is the true climate of Copley? This month, all within 300 metres
distance, we have Lead Mill Mean Max 13.3C M Min 3.7C Mean 8.5C Air
frost 6
Met O site Mean max 13.9C M Min 5.3C Mean 9.6C Air frost 1

Met O doesn't seem so personal these days. Years ago I received awards
for long service but that recognition seems to have gone. I ran a
station at nearby Low Etherley for 25 years and now Copley for 12
years, so the computer probably has me down as two different people!
We need the enthusiasm of the likes of Gordon Manley with his frost
site at Houghall Agricultural Colege, Durham and his hut on Great Dun
Fell. I think the few weather enthusiasts left at Met O are on this
ng, and their enthusiasm is infectious.

The Environment Agency is more interested in my obs together with Lord
Barnard the landowner. Of course, the person most interseted is me or
I wouldn't make the effort. Weather's fascinating, long live Eric
Olthwaite (Ripping Yarns)


I think to be a *real* Met man it has to be in the blood. You have to get
excited by ana fronts, blizzards, baroclinic zones, high potential vorticity,
jet streams, tornadoes, 0.1 mm of drizzle, fog etc etc. I started when I was 14
and I could code up a tephigram and work out cloud bases when I was 15, never
wanted to do anything else. You have to get up in the middle of the night at the
slightest hint of lightning or thunder, you have to gaze hours on end at a lamp
post or the velux window waiting for that first raindrop to turn to snow, you
have to look at the GFS T+384 on *every* run even though you know its going to
be wrong, you get out of bed and your first thought is what the min. was last
night or where the front has got to .... and .... you have to have a thick skin
and a sense of humour.

Will
--

"Ken Cook" wrote in message
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Hi, Ian,

I got the inspector to look at the site and instruments down there
last year and I include the reports to the Met O occasionally but they
are not particularly interested. They even disregarded the site at
Redhill Airfield because it was too extreme so what chance Copley! I
found it fascinating at Redhill, Chipstead Valley, Rickmansworth etc.
People live in these areas, so why not report their weather?


And even if people *don't* live there as long as the instuments
are correctly exposed then they are still valid readings.
They may not be representative of the general area either but
so what, neither is Caingorm representative of the the Scottish
Highlands as a whole, being an extreme site.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

Will Hand wrote:


I think to be a *real* Met man it has to be in the blood. You have to get
excited by ana fronts, blizzards, baroclinic zones, high potential vorticity,
jet streams, tornadoes, 0.1 mm of drizzle, fog etc etc. I started when I was 14
and I could code up a tephigram and work out cloud bases when I was 15, never
wanted to do anything else. You have to get up in the middle of the night at the
slightest hint of lightning or thunder, you have to gaze hours on end at a lamp
post or the velux window waiting for that first raindrop to turn to snow, you
have to look at the GFS T+384 on *every* run even though you know its going to
be wrong, you get out of bed and your first thought is what the min. was last
night or where the front has got to .... and .... you have to have a thick skin
and a sense of humour.

Will
--



Oh Dear, what time does your surgery open Will ;-)

--
Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net
e-mail: kreh at southendweather dot net