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I came across this old article by Philip Eden on a snow event to hit
the Channel Island in early November 1980
http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/repor...rd-in-1980.htm

Having looked at the charts for 04/11/1980 - 07/11/1980, they are
similar to those forecast for the Channel Islands for 14th-16th
November

04/11/1980 http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive...0119801104.gif
05/11/1980 http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive...0119801105.gif
06/11/1980 http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive...0119801106.gif
07/11/1980 http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive...0119801107.gif


14/11/2007 http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1261.png
15/11/2007 http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1501.png
16/11/2007 http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1741.png


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"Bonos Ego" wrote :

I came across this old article by Philip Eden on a snow event to hit
the Channel Island in early November 1980
http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/repor...rd-in-1980.htm

Having looked at the charts for 04/11/1980 - 07/11/1980, they are
similar to those forecast for the Channel Islands for 14th-16th
November

04/11/1980
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive...0119801104.gif
05/11/1980
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive...0119801105.gif
06/11/1980
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive...0119801106.gif
07/11/1980
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive...0119801107.gif


14/11/2007 http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1261.png
15/11/2007 http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1501.png
16/11/2007 http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1741.png

You really do need the actual wind to be E-ly or ESE-ly at
Jersey to get the unadulterated cold air off the French mainland.
Even an ENE-ly off the Cotentin peninsula will have originated
over the eastern Channel. There's only a 20km sea-crossing
between the French coast and Jersey, and at extreme low
spring tides most of that is exposed. (Jersey was actually
separated from the French mainland as recently as the 7th
century AD ... no' a lo' of people know that).

Philip


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"Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote in message
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You really do need the actual wind to be E-ly or ESE-ly at
Jersey to get the unadulterated cold air off the French mainland.
Even an ENE-ly off the Cotentin peninsula will have originated
over the eastern Channel. There's only a 20km sea-crossing
between the French coast and Jersey, and at extreme low
spring tides most of that is exposed. (Jersey was actually
separated from the French mainland as recently as the 7th
century AD ... no' a lo' of people know that).


No, I didn't know that.
I would have thought that by AD 600 any ice age related
sea level rise would long since have have stabilised.
How much lower would sea levels have to be for Jersey to
be connected to the French mainland?
And if that was the case I would imagine that the coastline
of Britain would look quite different to that of today.
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"Col" wrote :
"Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote :
You really do need the actual wind to be E-ly or ESE-ly at
Jersey to get the unadulterated cold air off the French mainland.
Even an ENE-ly off the Cotentin peninsula will have originated
over the eastern Channel. There's only a 20km sea-crossing
between the French coast and Jersey, and at extreme low
spring tides most of that is exposed. (Jersey was actually
separated from the French mainland as recently as the 7th
century AD ... no' a lo' of people know that).


No, I didn't know that.
I would have thought that by AD 600 any ice age related
sea level rise would long since have have stabilised.
How much lower would sea levels have to be for Jersey to
be connected to the French mainland?
And if that was the case I would imagine that the coastline
of Britain would look quite different to that of today.
--

I can recommend "Outrageous Waves: Global Warming
and Coastal Change in Britain through 2000 years" by
Basil Cracknell, published by Phillimore. It was certainly an
eye-opener for me. The coastline that we know is, rather like
the climate that we know, just a snapshot in a constantly
varying geography.

Philip


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Col wrote:


"Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote in message
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You really do need the actual wind to be E-ly or ESE-ly at
Jersey to get the unadulterated cold air off the French mainland.
Even an ENE-ly off the Cotentin peninsula will have originated
over the eastern Channel. There's only a 20km sea-crossing
between the French coast and Jersey, and at extreme low
spring tides most of that is exposed. (Jersey was actually
separated from the French mainland as recently as the 7th
century AD ... no' a lo' of people know that).


No, I didn't know that.
I would have thought that by AD 600 any ice age related
sea level rise would long since have have stabilised.
How much lower would sea levels have to be for Jersey to
be connected to the French mainland?
And if that was the case I would imagine that the coastline
of Britain would look quite different to that of today.



Apart from a couple of narrow channels less than a mile wide and 10-15
metres deep much of the area between the east of Jersey and the French
mainland is very close to drying out at low water during the biggest
spring tides.

Norman
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