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An excellent essay on Stephen Fry's blog (he calls it a "Blessay")
about GW and the difficulties he has in debating it without the debate
degenerating.

Read it at:

http://stephenfry.com/blog/?p=27

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An excellent essay on Stephen Fry's blog (he calls it a "Blessay")
about GW and the difficulties he has in debating it without the debate
degenerating.

Read it at:

http://stephenfry.com/blog/?p=27

Martin

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Terrific stuff. Nice to read something thoughtful on the subject for once.

Dave.





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Terrific stuff.


Pretty much sums up most things Stephen Fry puts his mind to...

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JPG wrote:
An excellent essay on Stephen Fry's blog (he calls it a "Blessay")
about GW and the difficulties he has in debating it without the debate
degenerating.

Read it at:

http://stephenfry.com/blog/?p=27


Strangely, he missed type D:
One who is uncertain or unconvinced but will make the savings in case they are
wrong.


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On 21 Nov, 19:06, Gianna wrote:
JPG wrote:
An excellent essay on Stephen Fry's blog (he calls it a "Blessay")
about GW and the difficulties he has in debating it without the debate
degenerating.


Read it at:


http://stephenfry.com/blog/?p=27


Strangely, he missed type D:
One who is uncertain or unconvinced but will make the savings in case they are
wrong.

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Type D, where we act just in case, was what he was advocating, but why
should it be only the deniers who get to drive the fast cars, jet ski
and vacuum up leaves? I would prefer to fly to Scotland instead of
spending a day driving up the M6 motorway. If the world is going to
come to an end, we greenies have as much right to enjoy our last few
days as those who are destroying the planet. Why is it only the
stupid and just plain cussed who should get all the fun?

Cheers, Alastair.


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Alastair wrote:
On 21 Nov, 19:06, Gianna wrote:
JPG wrote:
An excellent essay on Stephen Fry's blog (he calls it a "Blessay")
about GW and the difficulties he has in debating it without the debate
degenerating.
Read it at:
http://stephenfry.com/blog/?p=27

Strangely, he missed type D:
One who is uncertain or unconvinced but will make the savings in case they are
wrong.

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A fan of Mr. Fry.

http://www.buchan-meteo.org.uk
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Type D, where we act just in case, was what he was advocating



Actually, he was advocating Type A, and acting even though it might be wrong,
but never mind, that is only the exact opposite of my point.


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On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:58:32 +0000, Gianna wrote:

Alastair wrote:

Type D, where we act just in case, was what he was advocating


Actually, he was advocating Type A, and acting even though it might be wrong,
but never mind, that is only the exact opposite of my point.


I remain sceptical about the predicted long term effects of AGW, we
still know far too little about natural climate fluctuations which, to
my mind, are likely to have a far greater impact on long term climate
than anything we can do. The scientists know less about the long term
effects of AGW (compared to naturally occurring climate change) than
many of them seem to think they do.

I wonder if their 50 to 100 year climate models will turn out to be
any more accurate than the GFS at 10 to 14 days range. Probably not,
however, I think it's too risky to ignore them and that, I guess,
makes me an advocate of Type D - of which Mr Fry seems unaware.

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On 21 Nov, 18:05, Richard Dixon wrote:
On 21 Nov, 17:56, "Dave Cornwell"

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Terrific stuff.


Pretty much sums up most things Stephen Fry puts his mind to...


An intellectual giant who might in another life be in an academic
ivory tower somewhere, but fortunately for us he has become part of
popular culture. A true renaissance man.

Martin




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On 21 Nov, 15:52, JPG wrote:
An excellent essay on Stephen Fry's blog (he calls it a "Blessay")
about GW and the difficulties he has in debating it without the debate
degenerating.

Read it at:

http://stephenfry.com/blog/?p=27

Martin


The essay also pointed out quite clearly one of my bugbears - how the
scientific method is misunderstood by the layman. The fact that the
scientific method can never say anything is proven and that scientists
sometimes disagree is not lauded as an honest seeking after truth (as
it should be) but is seized upon by non-scientists as "the theory is
in trouble", global warming and evolution seem to be the main victims
of this ignorance.

Martin


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