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![]() An excellent essay on Stephen Fry's blog (he calls it a "Blessay") about GW and the difficulties he has in debating it without the debate degenerating. Read it at: http://stephenfry.com/blog/?p=27 Martin |
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![]() "JPG" wrote in message ... An excellent essay on Stephen Fry's blog (he calls it a "Blessay") about GW and the difficulties he has in debating it without the debate degenerating. Read it at: http://stephenfry.com/blog/?p=27 Martin ----------------------------- Terrific stuff. Nice to read something thoughtful on the subject for once. Dave. |
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On 21 Nov, 17:56, "Dave Cornwell"
wrote: Terrific stuff. Pretty much sums up most things Stephen Fry puts his mind to... Richard |
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JPG wrote:
An excellent essay on Stephen Fry's blog (he calls it a "Blessay") about GW and the difficulties he has in debating it without the debate degenerating. Read it at: http://stephenfry.com/blog/?p=27 Strangely, he missed type D: One who is uncertain or unconvinced but will make the savings in case they are wrong. -- Gianna A fan of Mr. Fry. http://www.buchan-meteo.org.uk * * * * * * * |
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On 21 Nov, 19:06, Gianna wrote:
JPG wrote: An excellent essay on Stephen Fry's blog (he calls it a "Blessay") about GW and the difficulties he has in debating it without the debate degenerating. Read it at: http://stephenfry.com/blog/?p=27 Strangely, he missed type D: One who is uncertain or unconvinced but will make the savings in case they are wrong. -- Gianna A fan of Mr. Fry. http://www.buchan-meteo.org.uk * * * * * * * Type D, where we act just in case, was what he was advocating, but why should it be only the deniers who get to drive the fast cars, jet ski and vacuum up leaves? I would prefer to fly to Scotland instead of spending a day driving up the M6 motorway. If the world is going to come to an end, we greenies have as much right to enjoy our last few days as those who are destroying the planet. Why is it only the stupid and just plain cussed who should get all the fun? Cheers, Alastair. |
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Alastair wrote:
On 21 Nov, 19:06, Gianna wrote: JPG wrote: An excellent essay on Stephen Fry's blog (he calls it a "Blessay") about GW and the difficulties he has in debating it without the debate degenerating. Read it at: http://stephenfry.com/blog/?p=27 Strangely, he missed type D: One who is uncertain or unconvinced but will make the savings in case they are wrong. -- Gianna A fan of Mr. Fry. http://www.buchan-meteo.org.uk * * * * * * * Type D, where we act just in case, was what he was advocating Actually, he was advocating Type A, and acting even though it might be wrong, but never mind, that is only the exact opposite of my point. -- Gianna http://www.buchan-meteo.org.uk * * * * * * * |
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On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:58:32 +0000, Gianna wrote:
Alastair wrote: Type D, where we act just in case, was what he was advocating Actually, he was advocating Type A, and acting even though it might be wrong, but never mind, that is only the exact opposite of my point. I remain sceptical about the predicted long term effects of AGW, we still know far too little about natural climate fluctuations which, to my mind, are likely to have a far greater impact on long term climate than anything we can do. The scientists know less about the long term effects of AGW (compared to naturally occurring climate change) than many of them seem to think they do. I wonder if their 50 to 100 year climate models will turn out to be any more accurate than the GFS at 10 to 14 days range. Probably not, however, I think it's too risky to ignore them and that, I guess, makes me an advocate of Type D - of which Mr Fry seems unaware. -- Dave |
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On 21 Nov, 18:05, Richard Dixon wrote:
On 21 Nov, 17:56, "Dave Cornwell" wrote: Terrific stuff. Pretty much sums up most things Stephen Fry puts his mind to... An intellectual giant who might in another life be in an academic ivory tower somewhere, but fortunately for us he has become part of popular culture. A true renaissance man. Martin Richard |
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On 21 Nov, 15:52, JPG wrote:
An excellent essay on Stephen Fry's blog (he calls it a "Blessay") about GW and the difficulties he has in debating it without the debate degenerating. Read it at: http://stephenfry.com/blog/?p=27 Martin The essay also pointed out quite clearly one of my bugbears - how the scientific method is misunderstood by the layman. The fact that the scientific method can never say anything is proven and that scientists sometimes disagree is not lauded as an honest seeking after truth (as it should be) but is seized upon by non-scientists as "the theory is in trouble", global warming and evolution seem to be the main victims of this ignorance. Martin |
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