On Nov 22, 10:57 pm, Rodney Blackall
wrote:

Piers Corbyn was not there which was a pity!

Not a touch of hypocrisy there?

One day we are going to be sorry he was treated so badly. If there are
things he knows that you lot don't and things you know he might use,
don't you think you all should be working a little harder to tear each
other down?

It seems there are quite big effects down to 100 km agl and sometimes down
to 30 km.

What's an agl?

Shouldn't that be above sea surface level? This was a British "Royal
Meteorological Society" event was it?

The major impact is at high latitudes (aurora zone) usually
causing extra heating which sends gravity waves equatorward.

"(Gravitational waves are sometimes called gravity waves, but this
term is generally reserved for a completely different kind of wave
encountered in hydrodynamics.)"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_waves

These are Rossby waves?

OOF!:

"In fluid dynamics, gravity waves are waves generated in a fluid
medium or at the interface between two mediums (e.g. the atmosphere or
ocean) which has the restoring force of gravity or buoyancy.

When a fluid parcel is displaced on an interface or internally to a
region with a different density, gravity restores the parcel toward
equilibrium resulting in an oscillation about the equilibrium state.
Gravity waves on an air-sea interface are called surface gravity waves
or surface waves while internal gravity waves are called internal
waves. Ocean waves and tsunamis are examples of gravity waves.

These waves are generated by wind in the oceans over areas known as
the fetch. Gravity waves generally have a period of between 1 and 30
seconds (0.033 to 1 Hz). Alternatively, intragravity waves generally
have a period between 30 seconds to 5 minutes (0.05 to 0.005 Hz).
Infragravity waves can be felt rather than seen as they have a much
greater wave energy."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_wave

Never mind about all that cobblers. Do they take place at (for
whatever reason) periods of intense stratification?

The transit time, sun to Earth may be as long as five days.
The ripples did not seem to be localised.

What phenomenon or part of the phenomenon are we discussing now? Not
the gravity waves may I take it but the discharge time for the
particles to arrive?

But is this in fact the case? How do we know that there isn't a
package of particles that are already here, just waiting for the
activity to send it splattering?

Local effects ARE observed - these are caused by ultra-high energy particles
and cosmic rays. The sources are not obvious, the timing cannot be foretold
and at the velocities concerned a tiny error moves the particle shower a
very long way.

It "cannot" at present be "foretold". This may be because there is an
arrogant quorum leading hostilities against anyone who might have some
idea. Or you may be right. I might be just another kook.

One thing's for certain, no one is going to solve it by saying it
can't bew done. We are huiman beings. We know more about the workings
of the universe than any other know mortal creatures in the universe.

What except us, is to stop us finding out?

Somewhat disjointed -or I lack the ability to understand what this is
all about:

Eruptions on the far side of the Sun are currently invisible
until the Sun has rotated enough, so predictions from new areas of activity
are questionable to say the least.

The main variations in solar output are at the extreme ends of the spectrum
(i.e. carry only a tiny fraction of the whole energy) and make most impact
in the exosphere, magnetosphere etc., which don't contribute much bulk to the
atmosphere as a whole!

It seemed that no one has come up with a way of showing a coupling between
the atmosphere at 100 km DOWN to the troposphere.A coupling UPWARDS
via planetary waves can be demonstrated.

On 28 Nov, 22:34, Weatherlawyer wrote:

One day we are going to be sorry he was treated so badly. If there are
things he knows that you lot don't and things you know he might use,
don't you think you all should be working a little harder to tear each
other down?

The Met Office have specifically approached him to work with him on
the topic. He refused to work with them. Who's got the problem?

Richard

On Nov 29, 5:30 pm, Richard Dixon wrote:
On 28 Nov, 22:34, Weatherlawyer wrote:

One day we are going to be sorry he was treated so badly. If there are
things he knows that you lot don't and things you know he might use,
don't you think you all should be working a little harder to tear each
other down?

The Met Office have specifically approached him to work with him on
the topic. He refused to work with them. Who's got the problem?

The met officers and others on here are doing a surprisingly good job
of defamation on here. I hate to think what they would do to someone
who, if he were to reveal all, would lose his business in a flash.

...Oh, ...wait...

In article bebff41c-4a85-4fe5-ba8e-a9d97f9283e3
@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com, says...
On Nov 22, 10:57 pm, Rodney Blackall
wrote:

Piers Corbyn was not there which was a pity!

Not a touch of hypocrisy there?

One day we are going to be sorry he was treated so badly. If there are
things he knows that you lot don't and things you know he might use,
don't you think you all should be working a little harder to tear each
other down?

Right now, it looks like Corbyn knows how to forecast events at their
climatological frequency (see Martin Rowley's analysis).


It seems there are quite big effects down to 100 km agl and sometimes down
to 30 km.

What's an agl?

"Above ground level." It's a standard abbreviation in meteorology.

Shouldn't that be above sea surface level? This was a British "Royal
Meteorological Society" event was it?

The major impact is at high latitudes (aurora zone) usually
causing extra heating which sends gravity waves equatorward.

"(Gravitational waves are sometimes called gravity waves, but this
term is generally reserved for a completely different kind of wave
encountered in hydrodynamics.)"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_waves

These are Rossby waves?

No. Gravity waves have gravity as the restoring force. Rossby waves
have the latitudinal variation in the Coriolis effect as the restoring
force.

Harold
--
Harold Brooks

On Nov 30, 2:06 pm, Harold Brooks wrote:

Right now, it looks like [this should be either Mr Corbyn, Piers Corbyn or Piers, not the disrespectful surname alone:] Corbyn knows how to forecast events at their
climatological frequency (see Martin Rowley's analysis).

Unfortunately, as far as I can make out, Martin's analysis relies on
his readers being familiar with the victim's words. (At least, this
reader has difficulty in differentiating which are the author's words
and which are those of the thaumaturge.)

If Mr Corbyn's words were in italics as would be the case in a paper
copy; or if his words were preceded on Usenet with the appropriate
"" signs at the start of every line, then it would be worth my while
trying to follow the argument.

I have the right to expect that consideration. And so I do.

In article 232b038d-59ba-4894-b267-
,
says...
On Nov 30, 2:06 pm, Harold Brooks wrote:

Right now, it looks like [this should be either Mr Corbyn, Piers Corbyn or Piers, not the disrespectful surname alone:] Corbyn knows how to forecast events at their
climatological frequency (see Martin Rowley's analysis).

Unfortunately, as far as I can make out, Martin's analysis relies on
his readers being familiar with the victim's words. (At least, this
reader has difficulty in differentiating which are the author's words
and which are those of the thaumaturge.)

If Mr Corbyn's words were in italics as would be the case in a paper
copy; or if his words were preceded on Usenet with the appropriate
"" signs at the start of every line, then it would be worth my while
trying to follow the argument.

I have the right to expect that consideration. And so I do.


It's been pointed out to you that the complete press release was posted
in this group on 17 October. You can use google groups to find it.
Searching for "Weather Action" will find all the threads. The original
posting was at

http://tinyurl.com/3cwrgr

It also seems pretty clear to me that when Martin says, as he did in his
discussion of Phase III,

'I have also seen the 'detailed' forecast issued by Weather Action
for this period, which is even more alarming thus:....

" Very heavy rain local floods/major storms and thunder. Probably
worst in West / Central / South Brit Isles...."'

what the forecast in question was.

Harold

--
Harold Brooks

In article 232b038d-59ba-4894-b267-
,
says...

Right now, it looks like [this should be either Mr Corbyn, Piers Corbyn or
Piers, not the disrespectful surname alone:] Corbyn knows how to forecast events
at their
climatological frequency (see Martin Rowley's analysis).

Is Mr Corbeen Mr Bean's brother I wonder? :-)

Will
--

Weatherlawyer wrote:

If Mr Corbyn's words were in italics as would be the case in a paper
copy; or if his words were preceded on Usenet with the appropriate
"" signs at the start of every line, then it would be worth my while
trying to follow the argument.

That's hilarious, considering that you are one of the worst offenders of
not clearing marking what is quoted and what is yours. I refer you to
your recent post on the Contrails entry in the FAQ, as one example that
springs quickly to mind.
--
Steve Loft
Sanday, Orkney. 5m ASL. http://sanday.org.uk/weather
Free weather station softwa http://sandaysoft.com/

"Steve Loft" wrote in message
m...
Weatherlawyer wrote:

If Mr Corbyn's words were in italics as would be the case in a paper
copy; or if his words were preceded on Usenet with the appropriate
"" signs at the start of every line, then it would be worth my while
trying to follow the argument.

That's hilarious, considering that you are one of the worst offenders of
not clearing marking what is quoted and what is yours. I refer you to
your recent post on the Contrails entry in the FAQ, as one example that
springs quickly to mind.

How dare you speak to The Special One like that? :-)

Will
--

Will Hand wrote:

How dare you speak to The Special One like that? :-)

Sorry, forgot my station for a moment.
--
Steve Loft
Sanday, Orkney. 5m ASL. http://sanday.org.uk/weather
Free weather station softwa http://sandaysoft.com/