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It still amazes me how the jetstream is not mentioned by forecasters

For instance today it is way south of us and allowing v cold air masses to
gather

http://users.telenet.be/weathersite/...aalstroom.html

Also in Japan it is standard to have solar forecasts as well as weather

cheers

Mike

cheers

Mike



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On Dec 8, 1:56 pm, "ptmike" wrote:
It still amazes me how the jetstream is not mentioned by forecasters

For instance today it is way south of us and allowing v cold air masses to
gather

http://users.telenet.be/weathersite/...m-straalstroom....

Also in Japan it is standard to have solar forecasts as well as weather

cheers

Mike

cheers

Mike


Jet streams are for grown-ups, not the child-like
ignoramuses the media are trying to turn us into (possibly in their
own image).
As to solar forecasts, what element is predicted? The sun
will rise; the sun will set. If it gets high in the sky you will get
burnt if you lie out in it for too long. Doesn't sound too difficult.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.
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solar flares i.e. not trousers

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"Tudor Hughes" wrote in message
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On Dec 8, 1:56 pm, "ptmike" wrote:
It still amazes me how the jetstream is not mentioned by forecasters

For instance today it is way south of us and allowing v cold air masses
to
gather

http://users.telenet.be/weathersite/...m-straalstroom....

Also in Japan it is standard to have solar forecasts as well as weather

cheers

Mike

cheers

Mike


Jet streams are for grown-ups, not the child-like
ignoramuses the media are trying to turn us into (possibly in their
own image).
As to solar forecasts, what element is predicted? The sun
will rise; the sun will set. If it gets high in the sky you will get
burnt if you lie out in it for too long. Doesn't sound too difficult.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.



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Jet streams are for grown-ups, not the child-like
ignoramuses the media are trying to turn us into (possibly in their
own image).
As to solar forecasts, what element is predicted? The sun
will rise; the sun will set. If it gets high in the sky you will get
burnt if you lie out in it for too long. Doesn't sound too difficult.


I detest the dumbed-down rubbish as spouted by the likes of
Mr Corbett as much as you but I don't ever recall a time when
jet streams were routinely mentioned in UK forecasts.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl


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"Tudor Hughes" wrote in message
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On Dec 8, 1:56 pm, "ptmike" wrote:
It still amazes me how the jetstream is not mentioned by forecasters

For instance today it is way south of us and allowing v cold air masses
to
gather

http://users.telenet.be/weathersite/...m-straalstroom....

Also in Japan it is standard to have solar forecasts as well as weather

cheers

Mike

cheers

Mike


Jet streams are for grown-ups, not the child-like
ignoramuses the media are trying to turn us into (possibly in their
own image).
As to solar forecasts, what element is predicted? The sun
will rise; the sun will set. If it gets high in the sky you will get
burnt if you lie out in it for too long. Doesn't sound too difficult.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.


Most people do not have a meteorological background so would not know the
significance of the jet stream. There is only so much you can fit into a two
minute forecast and I think the surface charts are far easier for the
layperson to digest than trying to show and explain jet streams.

Adam




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I think you underestimate people unless you tell them they will never know,
a lot of people know about the jetstream from their flights across the pond

cheers

Mike
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"Tudor Hughes" wrote in message
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On Dec 8, 1:56 pm, "ptmike" wrote:
It still amazes me how the jetstream is not mentioned by forecasters

For instance today it is way south of us and allowing v cold air masses
to
gather

http://users.telenet.be/weathersite/...m-straalstroom....

Also in Japan it is standard to have solar forecasts as well as weather

cheers

Mike

cheers

Mike


Jet streams are for grown-ups, not the child-like
ignoramuses the media are trying to turn us into (possibly in their
own image).
As to solar forecasts, what element is predicted? The sun
will rise; the sun will set. If it gets high in the sky you will get
burnt if you lie out in it for too long. Doesn't sound too difficult.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.


Most people do not have a meteorological background so would not know the
significance of the jet stream. There is only so much you can fit into a
two minute forecast and I think the surface charts are far easier for the
layperson to digest than trying to show and explain jet streams.

Adam



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Col writes:

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Jet streams are for grown-ups, not the child-like
ignoramuses the media are trying to turn us into (possibly in their
own image).
As to solar forecasts, what element is predicted? The sun
will rise; the sun will set. If it gets high in the sky you will get
burnt if you lie out in it for too long. Doesn't sound too difficult.


I detest the dumbed-down rubbish as spouted by the likes of
Mr Corbett as much as you but I don't ever recall a time when
jet streams were routinely mentioned in UK forecasts.


Nor do I. But they seem to be routinely mentioned in US forecasts, and I
find it hard to believe that the average American viewer is more
intelligent than the average British viewer.
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ptmike wrote:

I think you underestimate people unless you tell them they will never
know, a lot of people know about the jetstream from their flights
across the pond

cheers

Mike
"Adam Lea" wrote in message
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"Tudor Hughes" wrote in message


... On Dec 8, 1:56 pm, "ptmike" wrote:
It still amazes me how the jetstream is not mentioned by
forecasters

For instance today it is way south of us and allowing v cold
air masses to gather

http://users.telenet.be/weathersite/...tream-straalst
room....

Also in Japan it is standard to have solar forecasts as well as
weather

cheers

Mike

cheers

Mike

Jet streams are for grown-ups, not the child-like
ignoramuses the media are trying to turn us into (possibly in
their own image).
As to solar forecasts, what element is predicted? The sun
will rise; the sun will set. If it gets high in the sky you will
get burnt if you lie out in it for too long. Doesn't sound too
difficult.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.


Most people do not have a meteorological background so would not
know the significance of the jet stream. There is only so much you
can fit into a two minute forecast and I think the surface charts
are far easier for the layperson to digest than trying to show and
explain jet streams.

Adam


When I worked in Italy in the 1970's the TV forecasters there regularly
showed 500 mb charts as well as surface charts. I couldn't understand
what the presenters were saying but the graphical material used was
quite impressive.

Norman
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Chalfont St Giles, Buckinghamshire
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"ptmike" wrote in message
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I think you underestimate people unless you tell them they will never know,
a lot of people know about the jetstream from their flights across the pond

cheers

Mike


I accept people know about it but do they know the significance of it and
how it relates to the weather that is about to affect them, which is what
they really want to know.


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In message , John Hall
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In article ,
Col writes:
"Tudor Hughes" wrote in message
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Jet streams are for grown-ups, not the child-like
ignoramuses the media are trying to turn us into (possibly in their
own image).

....
I detest the dumbed-down rubbish as spouted by the likes of
Mr Corbett as much as you but I don't ever recall a time when
jet streams were routinely mentioned in UK forecasts.


Nor do I. But they seem to be routinely mentioned in US forecasts, and I
find it hard to believe that the average American viewer is more
intelligent than the average British viewer.


Hmmm. Caught a bit of Live from the Met on R3 this evening, and was
pleasantly re-assured by the commentators that not all of our Cousins
differ as much as some might think. Indeed, they sounded perfectly
normal.

Would be very pleasant if the BBC could find the courage and ability to
present at an intelligent adult level. I understand the need to leave
the less bright or less interested adequately informed, but some of the
current presentation is really rather wince-making. Being told how as
well as what would help.

Have known the jet-stream be mentioned very much as an exception on BBC
TV.

--
Peter Thomas


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