Tim wrote:

In message , Jim Bennett
writes
According to Met office at 15:33 the above is forecast "soon" and
violent storm force for the following areas "later"

Plymouth
Sole
Fastnet

Pity the poor fishermen as my old gran used to say

Not being a nautical type I don't normally pay attention to the
shipping forecast, but after you post I had a look at the MetO
warnings, e.g.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/...cast.html?area
=So le&type=All

What really caught my eye was the Sea State detail, "Rough or very
rough, becoming high or very high, occasionally phenomenal later." I
can only imagine what "phenomenal" means. Like you said, "pity the
poor fishermen".

Phenomenal is defined as waves over 14 metres (measured as the vertical
distance between crest and trough)

Norman
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On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 19:32:37 GMT, Norman wrote:

Phenomenal is defined as waves over 14 metres (measured as the vertical
distance between crest and trough)

14 metres WTF is that in English... 46 foot as near as damn it or higher
than the chimney pots on yer average 1930's semi.

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In message , Malcolm
writes

In article , Peter Thomas
writes
In message , Malcolm
writes

In article , Jim Bennett
writes
According to Met office at 15:33 the above is forecast "soon" and violent
storm force for the following areas "later"

Plymouth
Sole
Fastnet

Pity the poor fishermen as my old gran used to say

If they've any sense, they are in harbour. That's why there are
shipping forecasts :-)

But last week-end - F7 - trawler towing another - tow parted

- http://www.swanagelifeboat.org.uk/ - see Rescues - this year - 2/12

not to mention Freya on 4/12

So who is responsible for trawler engines breaking down!

Assuming the tow didn't start from harbour, causes might include
contaminated fuel lack of maintenance and of course, a rope round the
prop..


Marine engines get preventative maintenance, or should anyway.


From
http://www.maib.gov.uk/cms_resources...ssel_accident_
data.pdf

"The analysis of machinery accidents on page 12 concludes that the rise
in the rate of those accidents can be attributed almost entirely to
breakdowns which are caused by poor maintenance and under-investment."

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Peter Thomas

On Dec 9, 1:22 am, Peter Thomas
wrote:
In message , Malcolm
writes



In article , Peter Thomas
writes
In message , Malcolm
writes

In article , Jim Bennett
writes
According to Met office at 15:33 the above is forecast "soon" and violent
storm force for the following areas "later"

Plymouth
Sole
Fastnet

Pity the poor fishermen as my old gran used to say

If they've any sense, they are in harbour. That's why there are
shipping forecasts :-)

But last week-end - F7 - trawler towing another - tow parted

-http://www.swanagelifeboat.org.uk/- see Rescues - this year - 2/12

not to mention Freya on 4/12

So who is responsible for trawler engines breaking down!

Assuming the tow didn't start from harbour, causes might include
contaminated fuel lack of maintenance and of course, a rope round the
prop..

Marine engines get preventative maintenance, or should anyway.

From:

http://www.maib.gov.uk/

Broken link replaced by the bit that works.

That being a government site, I expect they have used Microsoft ****
to write the web page?

The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name
changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

Please try the following:

* Make sure that the Web site address displayed in the address bar
of your browser is spelled and formatted correctly.
* If you reached this page by clicking a link, contact the Web
site administrator to alert them that the link is incorrectly
formatted.
* Click the Back button to try another link.

HTTP Error 404 - File or directory not found.
Internet Information Services (IIS)

Technical Information (for support personnel)

* Go to Microsoft Product Support Services and perform a title
search for the words HTTP and 404.
* Open IIS Help, which is accessible in IIS Manager (inetmgr), and
search for topics titled Web Site Setup, Common Administrative Tasks,
and About Custom Error Messages.

(That's to a Firefox Browser, admittedly using Windholes.)

"The analysis of machinery accidents on page 12 concludes that the rise
in the rate of those accidents can be attributed almost entirely to
breakdowns which are caused by poor maintenance and under-investment."

What it won't say that investment is hampered by poor catches, a
quality of life induced by bad management of fishing grounds that has
been going on since ASDIC was invented.

Since sonar became the tool of the trawler industry, there has been no
respite for the fish. What would anyone expect to happen after so many
years?

On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 23:03:05 -0800 (PST), Weatherlawyer wrote:

That being a government site, I expect they have used Microsoft ****
to write the web page?

The page cannot be found

snip The standard error 404 page from a MS based *server*. Looking at
the MAIB home page it doesn't look like the code that MS products tend to
produce. It looks very clean and tidy.

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