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Nice to read other peoples views, but I have always believed the following.
Spring - April, May, June Summer - June, July, August Autumn - September, October, November Winter - December, January, February Nice day, here in Reading. After a cloudy night, sunny from late morning, with small amounts of cloud. Lucky for some! Last nights Min +1.0 and max today of +4.7. Currently +3.4 at 1500. Frost tonight, unless the cloud rolls back in. For this area, the forecast was not very accurate. Forecasters nightmare - St/Sc cloud so unpredictable. Eric Belton |
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Eric,
Most people take the spring season as March, April and May, at least for meteorological purposes.Your other seasons correspond to common practice. -- Bernard Burton Wokingham, Berkshire, UK. Satellite images at: www.woksat.info/wwp.html or www.btinternet.com/~wokingham.weather/wwp.html "Eric Belton" wrote in message ... Nice to read other peoples views, but I have always believed the following. Spring - April, May, June Summer - June, July, August Autumn - September, October, November Winter - December, January, February Nice day, here in Reading. After a cloudy night, sunny from late morning, with small amounts of cloud. Lucky for some! Last nights Min +1.0 and max today of +4.7. Currently +3.4 at 1500. Frost tonight, unless the cloud rolls back in. For this area, the forecast was not very accurate. Forecasters nightmare - St/Sc cloud so unpredictable. Eric Belton |
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Bernard Burton wrote:
Eric, Most people take the spring season as March, April and May, at least for meteorological purposes.Your other seasons correspond to common practice. -- Bernard Burton Wokingham, Berkshire, UK. Satellite images at: www.woksat.info/wwp.html or www.btinternet.com/~wokingham.weather/wwp.html "Eric Belton" wrote in message ... Nice to read other peoples views, but I have always believed the following. Spring - April, May, June Summer - June, July, August Autumn - September, October, November Winter - December, January, February Nice day, here in Reading. After a cloudy night, sunny from late morning, with small amounts of cloud. Lucky for some! Last nights Min +1.0 and max today of +4.7. Currently +3.4 at 1500. Frost tonight, unless the cloud rolls back in. For this area, the forecast was not very accurate. Forecasters nightmare - St/Sc cloud so unpredictable. Eric Belton Bernard, I think someone stole a March on Eric there. -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman, not newsboy. "What use is happiness? It can't buy you money." [Chic Murray, 1919-85] |
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![]() -- Eric Belton "Graham P Davis" wrote in message ... Bernard Burton wrote: Eric, Most people take the spring season as March, April and May, at least for meteorological purposes.Your other seasons correspond to common practice. -- Bernard Burton Wokingham, Berkshire, UK. Satellite images at: www.woksat.info/wwp.html or www.btinternet.com/~wokingham.weather/wwp.html "Eric Belton" wrote in message ... Nice to read other peoples views, but I have always believed the following. Spring - April, May, June Summer - June, July, August Autumn - September, October, November Winter - December, January, February Nice day, here in Reading. After a cloudy night, sunny from late morning, with small amounts of cloud. Lucky for some! Last nights Min +1.0 and max today of +4.7. Currently +3.4 at 1500. Frost tonight, unless the cloud rolls back in. For this area, the forecast was not very accurate. Forecasters nightmare - St/Sc cloud so unpredictable. Eric Belton Bernard, I think someone stole a March on Eric there. -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman, not newsboy. "What use is happiness? It can't buy you money." [Chic Murray, 1919-85] Whoops - you all know what I meant to say anyway. Any more like that and they'll be 'Marching' me away to the loony house. So many messages to read and trying to do too many things at once. Try this........... Spring - March, April, May Eric |
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Bernard Burton wrote:
Eric, Most people take the spring season as March, April and May, at least for meteorological purposes.Your other seasons correspond to common practice. -- Bernard Burton Wokingham, Berkshire, UK. ............ Yes, context is everything. I assume you mean by "meteorological purposes" essentially the acquisition of scientific knowledge. So that your three month seasons are sort of "pure maths" seasons. As opposed to "meteorological forecasts" whose purpose is presumably specified by an enduser like a pilot or a local authority. So their seasons are sort of "applied maths" seasons and may not be happily regimented into three months segments. Let me give you an e.g. : Seasons were agricultural. A local, retired (at 74), Suffolk livestock farmer said recently that when you reached February, you were only half way through the winter. I never fully grasped what he meant until I looked at the photographs for the 1963 winter that someone here pointed to (sorry, cannot find that post - about a week ago) when another mentioned that his children did not believe that he walked across the ice-bound Medina (sorry, cannot find that post either). I am still reeling at the quite extraordinary photos of Whitby and the video of Herne Bay where the sea froze for two miles out. Let alone the thin coat and uncovered hair of the lady on the pier whilst contemplating miles of drift ice and small bergs growling by... in Kent. Tough lot then. If livestock keepers had never seen a winter like that, perhaps their hay or straw reserves would have been insufficient to keep the stock alive and so, like the early Icelandic and Greenland Viking colonies, the stock died from starvation over the winter. The snow bound roads would not have allowed bales to be moved around the country to any degree as happens in globalised today. However, if a livestock keeper had seen a winter like that before, s/ he might take the hay-conservative view that winter is half way through when you reach February. And Spring starts in, say, May when the sugar-rich spring grass gets going. Summer starts in June to August. And autumn is September and October. So a season's length may depend on what you are doing in them. I have never seen weather anything like the 1963 Herne Bay photos (but then I have never lived in Scotland where apparently that sort of thing is commonplace)...so I wonder how long they thought that 1963 winter lasted. Looks long and grim. Spring starting in March ? Really ? Ode to Joy and all that - in MARCH ? De gustibus nil disputandum ! Thank you for a most informative and entertaining forum and seasons greetings to all. -- Giles |
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Giles ,the '63 winter was virtually over by the end of February ! but if you
meant 1947 well that's another story....see George Booths Epping weather page RonB "gb" wrote in message ... Bernard Burton wrote: Eric, Most people take the spring season as March, April and May, at least for meteorological purposes.Your other seasons correspond to common practice. -- Bernard Burton Wokingham, Berkshire, UK. ........... Yes, context is everything. I assume you mean by "meteorological purposes" essentially the acquisition of scientific knowledge. So that your three month seasons are sort of "pure maths" seasons. As opposed to "meteorological forecasts" whose purpose is presumably specified by an enduser like a pilot or a local authority. So their seasons are sort of "applied maths" seasons and may not be happily regimented into three months segments. Let me give you an e.g. : Seasons were agricultural. A local, retired (at 74), Suffolk livestock farmer said recently that when you reached February, you were only half way through the winter. I never fully grasped what he meant until I looked at the photographs for the 1963 winter that someone here pointed to (sorry, cannot find that post - about a week ago) when another mentioned that his children did not believe that he walked across the ice-bound Medina (sorry, cannot find that post either). I am still reeling at the quite extraordinary photos of Whitby and the video of Herne Bay where the sea froze for two miles out. Let alone the thin coat and uncovered hair of the lady on the pier whilst contemplating miles of drift ice and small bergs growling by... in Kent. Tough lot then. If livestock keepers had never seen a winter like that, perhaps their hay or straw reserves would have been insufficient to keep the stock alive and so, like the early Icelandic and Greenland Viking colonies, the stock died from starvation over the winter. The snow bound roads would not have allowed bales to be moved around the country to any degree as happens in globalised today. However, if a livestock keeper had seen a winter like that before, s/ he might take the hay-conservative view that winter is half way through when you reach February. And Spring starts in, say, May when the sugar-rich spring grass gets going. Summer starts in June to August. And autumn is September and October. So a season's length may depend on what you are doing in them. I have never seen weather anything like the 1963 Herne Bay photos (but then I have never lived in Scotland where apparently that sort of thing is commonplace)...so I wonder how long they thought that 1963 winter lasted. Looks long and grim. Spring starting in March ? Really ? Ode to Joy and all that - in MARCH ? De gustibus nil disputandum ! Thank you for a most informative and entertaining forum and seasons greetings to all. -- Giles |
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