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In message , Dave
Cornwell writes ------------------------ Trouble is Denis - you miss the point. Our hobby is the weather - collecting weather if you like. Are you telling me as a stamp collector you would go round ripping 1st class stamps off every envelope you came across or if you were a bird watcher you travel the country to get more pictures of robins? We tend to like rarities, some like cold spells, others heatwaves, others tornados. We don't decry your hobbies if you have any so let us have ours. Cheers, Dave Fair comment Dave, point taken. Whilst maybe not quite so keen as some of you good people, I take more than a passing interest in the weather too. It's just the obsession here with snow which I find amusing, most of them too have not the slightest interest in extremes of hot weather, which is to be cursed. Must admit I dislike extreme cold but also there's much more of interest in an average winter than mere extreme cold. People here moan about westerlies, 'boring' is the usual response. Yet where I live in the extremities of our islands' west coasts, Atlantic gales bring the most exciting weather of the winter. A 60 knot or so storm is fantastic, massive seas, literally breath taking airflow, there's nothing boring about it. Far more exciting to me than snow flakes drifting down, followed by a granted beautiful landscape but then comes the dreary bit being cut off for days. Still don't suppose that sort of thing happens too much in Greater London or Kent etc.. Don't suppose the excitement of a southerly or westerly gale has much impact there either. Cheers -- Denis |
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On Dec 30, 1:32*am, Denis Allen wrote:
In message , Dave Cornwell writes------------------------ Trouble is Denis - you miss the point. Our hobby is the weather - collecting weather if you like. Are you telling me as a stamp collector you would go round ripping 1st class stamps off every envelope you came across or if you were a bird watcher you travel the country to get more pictures of robins? We tend to like rarities, some like cold spells, others heatwaves, others tornados. We don't decry your hobbies if you have any so let us have ours.. Cheers, Dave Fair comment Dave, point taken. *Whilst maybe not quite so keen as some of you good people, *I take more than a passing interest in the weather too. *It's just the obsession here with snow which I find amusing, most of them too have not the slightest interest in extremes of hot weather, which is to be cursed. Must admit I dislike extreme cold but also there's much more of interest in an average winter than mere extreme cold. * People here moan about westerlies, 'boring' is the usual response. *Yet where I live in the extremities of our islands' west coasts, Atlantic gales bring the most exciting weather of the winter. *A 60 knot or so storm is fantastic, massive seas, literally breath taking airflow, there's nothing boring about it. Far more exciting to me than snow flakes drifting down, followed by a granted beautiful landscape but then comes the dreary bit being cut off for days. Still don't suppose that sort of thing happens too much in Greater London or Kent etc.. *Don't suppose the excitement of a southerly or westerly gale has much impact there either. Cheers -- Denis I find persistent easterlies both boring and nasty. Persistent tropical maritime SW'lies can be boring, too, but are much less nasty. Generally, however the weather is more active with a westerly regime and there is more to keep the interest up. There is no doubt that there is an overall assumption on this group that cold weather, preferably with snow, is "good" or we wouldn't see words like "exciting" and "promising" in its anticipation or "failure" and "damp squib" if it fails to materialise. Considering the disruption to transport that even a small amount of snow causes these days due to the vast increase in road traffic plus the fact that most people like to be warm rather than cold, it all seems a bit perverse to hope for snow etc for anyone over the age of say 30. I have lived through a number of cold winters (1947, though I don't remember it, 1963,1979,1985-7) and don't want another one. They are bloody miserable. Hot weather is different. I can find it physically uncomfortable but it can lend an exotic, almost sleazy feel to the place which I rather like. Also, of course, it may go bang, and nobody minds that, do they? Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey. |
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![]() "Denis Allen" wrote in message ... In message , Dave Cornwell writes ------------------------ Trouble is Denis - you miss the point. Our hobby is the weather - collecting weather if you like. Are you telling me as a stamp collector you would go round ripping 1st class stamps off every envelope you came across or if you were a bird watcher you travel the country to get more pictures of robins? We tend to like rarities, some like cold spells, others heatwaves, others tornados. We don't decry your hobbies if you have any so let us have ours. Cheers, Dave Fair comment Dave, point taken. Whilst maybe not quite so keen as some of you good people, I take more than a passing interest in the weather too. It's just the obsession here with snow which I find amusing, most of them too have not the slightest interest in extremes of hot weather, which is to be cursed. Must admit I dislike extreme cold but also there's much more of interest in an average winter than mere extreme cold. People here moan about westerlies, 'boring' is the usual response. Yet where I live in the extremities of our islands' west coasts, Atlantic gales bring the most exciting weather of the winter. A 60 knot or so storm is fantastic, massive seas, literally breath taking airflow, there's nothing boring about it. Far more exciting to me than snow flakes drifting down, followed by a granted beautiful landscape but then comes the dreary bit being cut off for days. Still don't suppose that sort of thing happens too much in Greater London or Kent etc.. Don't suppose the excitement of a southerly or westerly gale has much impact there either. Cheers -- Denis ------------------------ Fair point also ! I think the cold thing for some (me?) links back to the variety added to everyday life by the 1962-3 winter and a few other snow events. " Don't suppose the excitement of a southerly or westerly gale has much impact there either" - just a bit in 1987 ! Dave |
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In message , Dave
Cornwell writes ------------------------ Fair point also ! I think the cold thing for some (me?) links back to the variety added to everyday life by the 1962-3 winter and a few other snow events. " Don't suppose the excitement of a southerly or westerly gale has much impact there either" - just a bit in 1987 ! Dave True in 1987 you did have a "bit". Thing is though in the north and west the wind speeds you experienced in '87 have a tendency to blow in most winters. It's just that a SE Centric media ignores what goes on elsewhere. Cheers -- Denis |
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![]() "Denis Allen" wrote in message news ![]() In message , Dave Cornwell writes ------------------------ Fair point also ! I think the cold thing for some (me?) links back to the variety added to everyday life by the 1962-3 winter and a few other snow events. " Don't suppose the excitement of a southerly or westerly gale has much impact there either" - just a bit in 1987 ! Dave True in 1987 you did have a "bit". Thing is though in the north and west the wind speeds you experienced in '87 have a tendency to blow in most winters. It's just that a SE Centric media ignores what goes on elsewhere. Apart from in the most exposed places such as the Western/Nortern Isles such a storm would be far from normal in Scotland. No doubt there would be a hint of London centricity but had a 1987 style gale hit Glasgow for example it would still be a massive national story. -- Col Bolton, Lancashire 160m asl |
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