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Eric Heffer in todays Telegraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m.../05/do0501.xml "What's wrong with a few inches of snow? One cannot help but be amused by all the excitement caused by a dusting of snow this week. The one day of slight, non-freezing cold was forecast to be "Siberian", though it was in fact about as Siberian as Monte Carlo. Few things depress me more than the BBC weather forecasts, which now seem obliged to exaggerate any bad weather just in case something horrid actually does turn up and cause inconvenience. This seems to stem from the famous failure to predict the 1987 hurricane, not to mention the unforeseen M11 whiteout of a few years back, when people were trapped in their cars for hours on a motorway. If we had a clutch of far less theatrical weather forecasters to start with, that might help, as a bit of dullness and unexcitement would be of huge benefit. Even worse, the usually non-existent snow they talk of is always predicted in centimetres, which is either offensive or incomprehensible to most of us. When it comes, let in come in inches." Of course he absolutely correct I think what he doesn’t quite get that it's not only the BBC but it's generic source the Mett Office and in turn the Labour Party Spin -their actual bosses. On their website UKMO congratulated Al Gore winning the Nobel Prize. UKMO are now known as "Met Office Weather amd Climate Change" So the debate is over the world is tobogganing (one with wheels of course) towards climate catastrophe, it's indisputable, the arctic is melting, Polar Bears now have a representative at the United Nations and one may run for presidency, in essence the world is heating up pretty damn quick. Okay then I get their point, but how goes that square with the increasingly shrill warnings of dangerously cold/freezing conditions they seem to constantly exaggerate? Yet the scenarios for such extreme events are becoming fewer and further between. When we look back at the severe winters of our youths we never got all this ‘WARNING’ twaddle, and if anything those winters make so called current severe spells look pathetic by comparison. So we have less and less chances of severe cold spells yet increasingly louder warnings of danger. Now the press overdoing any story is something we come to expect purely for sales, bit UKMO and the BBC? Well as I've always said the BBC lives on state backed license fees and is run by a minority who want to impose their left wing views(all on generous incomes of course ) over the majority. As for UKMO-well they once upon a time just got on with predicting the weather now they seem increasingly a propaganda tool for a corrupt, minority spin obsessed bunch of left wing opportunist professional politicians who also want to impose their views over the majority (let’s call that England)as well. Also to make a poppy show of look how the government is protecting us from fictitious severe weather via UKMO and BBC news output, it covers up for the fact that major cities and town are riddled with violent crimes, the NHS is useless ( I speak from personal experience) and the economy is unsustainable . That's the only way I can make senses out of the constant hyperbole coming from UKMO and BBC yet both aggree that winres are becoming less severe. Smoke and Mirror’s I say |
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On 5 Jan, 16:46, John Hall wrote:
In article , writes: Eric Heffer in todays Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...d=WMCK1TXAYI3D... "What's wrong with a few inches of snow? snip It seems that you weren't impressed enough to get his name right. ![]() article's author was Simon Heffer. -- John Hall "Honest criticism is hard to take, particularly from a relative, a friend, an acquaintance, or a stranger." Franklin P Jones The Met Office is terrified of the 'why weren't we warned' accusations. It now makes them experts at crying wolf. The net result is that people pay little or no attention to any warnings. The councils don't mind gritting the roads as they must have a huge surplus of grit that has been unused for the last maybe ten winters. Where I do get very annoyed is the result of this not getting caught out attitude is that forecasts are always OTT. Rain is nearly always heavy in places with local flooding. Snow is heavy with perhaps 1-3cm in places. Fog is extremely dangerous and one should think twice before venturing out. Winds can cause structural damage. I'm just waiting for the warning of being struck by lightening in thundery showers! By the way - there used to be a stroppy left winger called Eric Heffer - Simon is the exact opposite politically wise! |
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On Jan 5, 12:18*pm, Pete L wrote:
On 5 Jan, 16:46, John Hall wrote: In article , writes: Eric Heffer in todays Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...d=WMCK1TXAYI3D.... "What's wrong with a few inches of snow? snip It seems that you weren't impressed enough to get his name right. ![]() article's author was Simon Heffer. -- John Hall * * * * * * *"Honest criticism is hard to take, * * * * * * * *particularly from a relative, a friend, * * * * * * * *an acquaintance, or a stranger." * * * *Franklin P Jones The Met Office is terrified of the 'why weren't we warned' accusations. It now makes them experts at crying wolf. The net result is that people pay little or no attention to any warnings. The councils don't mind gritting the roads as they must have a huge surplus of grit that has been unused for the last maybe ten winters. Where I do get very annoyed is the result of this not getting caught out attitude is that forecasts are always OTT. Rain is nearly always heavy in places with local flooding. Snow is heavy with perhaps 1-3cm in places. Fog is extremely dangerous and one should think twice before venturing out. Winds can cause structural damage. I'm just waiting for the warning of being struck by lightening in thundery showers! By the way - there used to be a stroppy left winger called Eric Heffer - Simon is the exact opposite politically wise!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Over here in Canada and the northeast US, I've noticed that the TV weather forecasters make a bigger deal out of cold snaps and storms than I remember as a child. This probably parallels what is happening in the UK. I guess that weather has become entertainment. Over here the city governments are always bellyaching that they don't have enough money budgeted for snowplowing and salting roads when they know that we will get several 15cm+ snowfalls from November thru April. Bob in southern Ontario |
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On Jan 5, 5:37 pm, mittens wrote:
On Jan 5, 12:18 pm, Pete L wrote: On 5 Jan, 16:46, John Hall wrote: In article , writes: Eric Heffer in todays Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...d=WMCK1TXAYI3D... "What's wrong with a few inches of snow? snip It seems that you weren't impressed enough to get his name right. ![]() article's author was Simon Heffer. -- John Hall "Honest criticism is hard to take, particularly from a relative, a friend, an acquaintance, or a stranger." Franklin P Jones The Met Office is terrified of the 'why weren't we warned' accusations. It now makes them experts at crying wolf. The net result is that people pay little or no attention to any warnings. The councils don't mind gritting the roads as they must have a huge surplus of grit that has been unused for the last maybe ten winters. Where I do get very annoyed is the result of this not getting caught out attitude is that forecasts are always OTT. Rain is nearly always heavy in places with local flooding. Snow is heavy with perhaps 1-3cm in places. Fog is extremely dangerous and one should think twice before venturing out. Winds can cause structural damage. I'm just waiting for the warning of being struck by lightening in thundery showers! By the way - there used to be a stroppy left winger called Eric Heffer - Simon is the exact opposite politically wise!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Over here in Canada and the northeast US, I've noticed that the TV weather forecasters make a bigger deal out of cold snaps and storms than I remember as a child. This probably parallels what is happening in the UK. I guess that weather has become entertainment. Over here the city governments are always bellyaching that they don't have enough money budgeted for snowplowing and salting roads when they know that we will get several 15cm+ snowfalls from November thru April. I'd imagine there were always moans in a tiered system such as local government. In the good old days that wouldn't have made it into the hallowed circus of television. But theses days anything goes. |
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On Jan 5, 4:46*pm, John Hall wrote:
In article ,*lawrenc writes: Eric Heffer in todays Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...d=WMCK1TXAYI3D.... "What's wrong with a few inches of snow? snip It seems that you weren't impressed enough to get his name right. ![]() article's author was Simon Heffer. -- John Hall * * * * * * *"Honest criticism is hard to take, * * * * * * * *particularly from a relative, a friend, * * * * * * * *an acquaintance, or a stranger." * * * *Franklin P Jones Hands up, yes I made a mistake, I can still vividly remember Eric Heffer from my left wing days. However that is a silly petty remark. |
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On Jan 5, 5:18*pm, Pete L wrote:
On 5 Jan, 16:46, John Hall wrote: In article , writes: Eric Heffer in todays Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...d=WMCK1TXAYI3D.... "What's wrong with a few inches of snow? snip It seems that you weren't impressed enough to get his name right. ![]() article's author was Simon Heffer. -- John Hall * * * * * * *"Honest criticism is hard to take, * * * * * * * *particularly from a relative, a friend, * * * * * * * *an acquaintance, or a stranger." * * * *Franklin P Jones The Met Office is terrified of the 'why weren't we warned' accusations. It now makes them experts at crying wolf. The net result is that people pay little or no attention to any warnings. The councils don't mind gritting the roads as they must have a huge surplus of grit that has been unused for the last maybe ten winters. Where I do get very annoyed is the result of this not getting caught out attitude is that forecasts are always OTT. Rain is nearly always heavy in places with local flooding. Snow is heavy with perhaps 1-3cm in places. Fog is extremely dangerous and one should think twice before venturing out. Winds can cause structural damage. I'm just waiting for the warning of being struck by lightening in thundery showers! By the way - there used to be a stroppy left winger called Eric Heffer - Simon is the exact opposite politically wise!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes you are correct I've got Eric still deeply ingrained in sub consciousness from my lefty days. |
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