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On 20 Jan, 22:36, Mike Tullett
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:26:50 -0800 (PST), TimHenderson wrote in


At 1250 (the accident was at 1242)


EGLL 171250Z 20013KT 9999 BKN008 10/08 Q0996 BECMG 24018G28KT SCT012
BKN020


so clearly the weather wasn't a factor.

On another thread, a knowledgeable jet pilot has surmised :

I suspect that the first point of investigation will be fuel waxing,
caused by exceptionally low temperatures en-route from China.


I doubt very much waxing was a factor as the engines still had power up to
two miles away and a height of only 600 feet. My money is on the engine
electronic control systems and particularly the associated software which
seems to have stopped manual override.

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Mike Tullett - Coleraine 55.13°N 6.69°W posted 20/01/2008 22:36:33 GMT


I'd fancy an outside bet at good odds that it was the spooks jamming
the mobile phone network for Gordon Brown's motorcade trip to Heathrow
that managed to interfere with the avionics ! But an unfortunately
timed blockage of the fuel supply systems (possibly linked with this
rumour that some alarm systems had been inactivated) seems a more
mundane explanation.

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On Jan 17, 7:39 pm, " cupra" wrote:
Martin Rowley wrote:
wrote...


It's a complicated subject and requires some in-depth knowledge.
Pilots undergo significant training to understand all the
interactions
between power, flap setting, air brakes, etc.


... whatever, this pilot deserves great respect! I know they get a lot
of training for this sort of thing in the simulators, but it's another
'ball-game' entirely when it actually happens at the end of a long
flight from the other side of Asia! Indeed, it sounds as if the entire
crew (cabin and flight-deck) deserve a huge pat on the back.


Absolutely - one of the radio news quotes was 'the pilot deserves a medal
the size of a frying pan', I agree, along with the rest of the crew!


Was it a "Mira-aculous landing.." as one national pundit would have
it?

Or was it a crash-landing in which the plane is pretty much a write
off?

I would hate to find myself flapping my arms rather hurriedly
somewhere five miles or so above the Atlantic, having just been
informed the plane I'd recently evacuated had been involved in such a
boner.

Imagine putting that thing back in the sky.
It fell out of it before the crash and they only think it "might be a
write off"?

They can f...


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