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Here is a summary of the NWP output for noon on Thursday.
Issued 0519, 27th Jan 2008 The end of the working week looks wet and windy, with low pressure nearby. There's likely to be cold air close to the UK, but the models are less keen on bringing it over the UK compared with yesterday. It's likely parts of Scotland at least will see some snow with a much lower risk further south. Into the weekend both ECM and GFS show mild SW'lies becoming established, although it should be pointed out that both ECM and GFS were on the mild site within their ensembles. If the charts are accurate, there'd be a NW/SE split for the weekend, with the NW seeing more in the way of wind and rain. Analysis and evolution to T+120 via GFS http://85.214.49.20/pics/Rtavn001.png High pressure is located to the south, with WSW'lies across the UK. The winds become SW'lies tomorrow as a trough develops to the west. The trough crosses Ireland on Tuesday, bringing SW'lies in advance and WNW'lies after it passes through. On Wednesday England and Wales lie under a col, with WSW'lies elsewhere. T+120 synopsis http://85.214.49.20/pics/Rtavn12015.png / http://85.214.49.20/pics/Rtavn1201.png http://85.214.49.20/pics/Rukm1201.gif http://85.214.49.20/pics/Recm1201.gif / http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/nogapse_cartes.php The jetstream chart shows strong and zonal jet across the North Atlantic and the UK. At the 500hPa level there's a zonal flow over the UK as well, with an upper low to the NE of Iceland and an upper high west of Greenland. ECM shows a similarly strong zonal flow aloft, with an upper low near Svalbard. GEM has strong WSW'lies aloft and NGP is the only model to buck the trend, with a deep trough east of the UK, a ridge over the mid Atlantic and upper NNW'lies for the UK - in line with what the other models had been showing for a few days now. At the surface GFS brings strong WSW'lies over England, Northern Ireland and Wales, with a col over Scotland. ECM has a deep low to the north and SW'ly gales over the UK, as is the case with GEM. NGP has a high to the NW, with lows to the east and WSW. NW'lies affect all areas except the far SW of England, which lies under a col. Evolution to T+168 ECM shows a trough to the east on day 6, with coolder NW'lies and WNW'lies for the UK. By day 7 they're swept away as a low deepens to the NW, bringing SSW'lies across the UK. GFS brings westerlies and WNW'lies to most on day 6 as a weak seconary low moves eastwards over Scotland. To the north of the low, for northern Scotland, there are some very cold NW'lies. On day 7 low pressure lies to the NW and a mixture of SW'lies and WSW'lies covers the UK. Looking further afield Southerlies and SSW'lies cover the UK on days 8 to 10 with ECM, as a deep area of low pressure stays in-situ over the mid-Atlantic. The GFS brings southerlies and SW'lies on day 8 with a trough over Scotland. There's little change on day 9, but by day 10 pressure builds over France. Southerlies and SSW'lies persist over the UK. Ensemble analysis (http://91.121.94.83/modeles/gens/gra...ille=Lon dres) The ensembles show a 3-day cold spell on the way, followed by a return to normal temperatures. |
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![]() "Darren Prescott" wrote in message ... Here is a summary of the NWP output for noon on Thursday. Issued 0519, 27th Jan 2008 The end of the working week looks wet and windy, with low pressure nearby. There's likely to be cold air close to the UK, but the models are less keen on bringing it over the UK compared with yesterday. It's likely parts of Scotland at least will see some snow with a much lower risk further south. Into the weekend both ECM and GFS show mild SW'lies becoming established, although it should be pointed out that both ECM and GFS were on the mild site within their ensembles. If the charts are accurate, there'd be a NW/SE split for the weekend, with the NW seeing more in the way of wind and rain. Analysis and evolution to T+120 via GFS http://85.214.49.20/pics/Rtavn001.png High pressure is located to the south, with WSW'lies across the UK. The winds become SW'lies tomorrow as a trough develops to the west. The trough crosses Ireland on Tuesday, bringing SW'lies in advance and WNW'lies after it passes through. On Wednesday England and Wales lie under a col, with WSW'lies elsewhere. T+120 synopsis http://85.214.49.20/pics/Rtavn12015.png / http://85.214.49.20/pics/Rtavn1201.png http://85.214.49.20/pics/Rukm1201.gif http://85.214.49.20/pics/Recm1201.gif / http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/nogapse_cartes.php The jetstream chart shows strong and zonal jet across the North Atlantic and the UK. At the 500hPa level there's a zonal flow over the UK as well, with an upper low to the NE of Iceland and an upper high west of Greenland. ECM shows a similarly strong zonal flow aloft, with an upper low near Svalbard. GEM has strong WSW'lies aloft and NGP is the only model to buck the trend, with a deep trough east of the UK, a ridge over the mid Atlantic and upper NNW'lies for the UK - in line with what the other models had been showing for a few days now. At the surface GFS brings strong WSW'lies over England, Northern Ireland and Wales, with a col over Scotland. ECM has a deep low to the north and SW'ly gales over the UK, as is the case with GEM. NGP has a high to the NW, with lows to the east and WSW. NW'lies affect all areas except the far SW of England, which lies under a col. Evolution to T+168 ECM shows a trough to the east on day 6, with coolder NW'lies and WNW'lies for the UK. By day 7 they're swept away as a low deepens to the NW, bringing SSW'lies across the UK. GFS brings westerlies and WNW'lies to most on day 6 as a weak seconary low moves eastwards over Scotland. To the north of the low, for northern Scotland, there are some very cold NW'lies. On day 7 low pressure lies to the NW and a mixture of SW'lies and WSW'lies covers the UK. Looking further afield Southerlies and SSW'lies cover the UK on days 8 to 10 with ECM, as a deep area of low pressure stays in-situ over the mid-Atlantic. The GFS brings southerlies and SW'lies on day 8 with a trough over Scotland. There's little change on day 9, but by day 10 pressure builds over France. Southerlies and SSW'lies persist over the UK. Ensemble analysis (http://91.121.94.83/modeles/gens/gra...ille=Lon dres) The ensembles show a 3-day cold spell on the way, followed by a return to normal temperatures. ---------------------- This must be a case for more runs needed. I thought I saw a very cold chart for GFS 18z last night. Sees to be even more oscillation than usual at the moment. I suppose the odds are that it will end up as you say, though, Darren. Dave |
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